From oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Tue Mar 23 11:15:47 2004 Return-Path: Received: from air189.startdedicated.com (root@localhost) by orafaq.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2NHFkv16944 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:15:46 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 206.53.239.180 Received: from turing.freelists.org (freelists-180.iquest.net [206.53.239.180]) by air189.startdedicated.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id i2NHFgo16897 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:15:44 -0600 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 77759391890; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 06310-68; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 12:01:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id F2B9839332D; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:59:45 -0500 (EST) Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list oracle-l); Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:58:24 -0500 (EST) X-Original-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Delivered-To: oracle-l@freelists.org Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with ESMTP id 343CD390D5D for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from turing.freelists.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (turing [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 32432-100 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:47:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail32.messagelabs.com (mail32.messagelabs.com [62.173.108.211]) by turing.freelists.org (Avenir Technologies Mail Multiplex) with SMTP id 2636B3903E0 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 11:18:05 -0500 (EST) X-VirusChecked: Checked X-Env-Sender: Peter.Hitchman@thomson.com X-Msg-Ref: server-17.tower-32.messagelabs.com!1080059098!9721915 X-StarScan-Version: 5.1.15; banners=.,-,- Received: (qmail 17300 invoked from network); 23 Mar 2004 16:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MIMESWEEPER1.Derwent.co.uk) (62.200.87.120) by server-17.tower-32.messagelabs.com with SMTP; 23 Mar 2004 16:24:59 -0000 Received: from der-lon-msg-01.derwent.co.uk (unverified [10.228.5.119]) by MIMESWEEPER1.Derwent.co.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.3.12) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:26:29 +0000 Received: by der-lon-msg-01.derwent.co.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) id ; Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:31:44 -0000 Message-ID: <8D697B8FCEBB3744B3A1E4AE15E8331E02DA39@der-lon-msg-03> From: "Hitchman, Peter" To: "'oracle-l@freelists.org'" Subject: RE: Database for WebSphere5 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2004 16:23:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2655.55) Content-Type: text/plain X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org X-archive-position: 1558 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org Errors-To: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org X-original-sender: Peter.Hitchman@thomson.com Precedence: normal Reply-To: oracle-l@freelists.org X-list: oracle-l X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at freelists.org Hi, We use Websphere 4 and dedicate a small DB2 db to it on a P.C., no license cost if that's all it does. But according to what I have seen from IBM Websphere 5 was to do away with its dependence on any database for storage. Has this changed or is it just a different config option? Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@freelists.org]On Behalf Of Peter Barnett Sent: 23 March 2004 15:19 To: oracle-l@freelists.org Subject: Database for WebSphere5 We just upgraded to WebSphere5. During user acceptance testing I discovered that the WAS schema has exactly TWO tables. Investigating further, I found out that these two tables are dynamic. When someone logs in these tables are populated and when the user logs out the data is deleted. Out of the box, WAS will install a default DB2 database on the same server as the application server. Even though I am an Oracle bigot, it seems silly to pay for cpu licensing for two small tables. I am leaning toward asking our middle-ware administrators to use the default install and save the cpu licensing expense for Oracle. Does anyone have any experience with this configuration? Especially, hidden gotchas, like DB2 cpu licensing? ===== Pete Barnett Lead Database Administrator The Regence Group pnbarne@regence.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Finance Tax Center - File online. 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