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Re: Re[4]: oracle can ignore hints

From: Ron Rogers <RROGERS_at_galottery.org>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2004 11:31:39 -0500
Message-Id: <s055943a.011@galottery.org>


Sorry, Wrong product.
TOAD uses SQLLAB expert not SQLEXPERT.
Ron

>>> RROGERS_at_galottery.org 03/15/2004 11:21:51 AM >>> Sqlexpert is part of the TOAD expert package I believe. The TOAD price is cheaper than the stand alone package. The choices that the package gives you for tuning are helpfull reminders and the package will perform
a time/cost study also.
Ron

>>> ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net 03/15/2004 11:07:22 AM >>> what did you think of sqlexpert?
>
> From: Jonathan Gennick <jonathan_at_gennick.com>
> Date: 2004/03/15 Mon AM 10:40:33 EST
> To: Mark Leith <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> Subject: Re[4]: oracle can ignore hints
>
> Hello Mark,
>
> Yep. SQLExpert. Leccotech. That sounds about right. That's
> the tool I've seen demoed.
>
> Best regards,
>
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> Monday, March 15, 2004, 9:05:01 AM, Mark Leith
(mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk) wrote:
> ML> Jonathan - are you referring to SQLExpert? This tool does in
fact
> ML> re-write a given piece of SQL in every semantically equivalent
way that
> ML> is possible (including hints, rewriting the code semantics etc.)
- then
> ML> shows you all of the re-written statements that have an
alternate
> ML> execution plan to the source SQL for benchmarking..
>
> ML> I'm pretty sure that no other SQL tuner in the market does this
quite
> ML> like SQLExpert (please correct me if I'm wrong - I don't get
the chance
> ML> to test out new versions of competitors products lately, and
they
may be
> ML> catching up with SQLExpert - which has been doing tuning this
way
since
> ML> first release..).
>
> ML> The vendor is Leccotech by the way - we are a UK distributor.
>
> ML> Mark
>
> ML> Mark Leith
> ML> Cool-Tools UK Limited
>
> ML> Tel: 01905 330 281
> ML> Fax: 08701 275 283
> ML> mark_at_cool-tools.co.uk
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>
>
> ML> -----Original Message-----
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> ML> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of
ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net
> ML> Sent: 15 March 2004 13:19
> ML> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org; Niall Litchfield
> ML> Subject: Re: Re[2]: oracle can ignore hints
>
>
> ML> embarcadero is one. I think quest's does the same thing.
> >>
> >> From: Jonathan Gennick <jonathan_at_gennick.com>
> >> Date: 2004/03/15 Mon AM 08:01:38 EST
> >> To: Niall Litchfield <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> >> Subject: Re[2]: oracle can ignore hints
> >>
> >> Monday, March 15, 2004, 4:12:55 AM, Niall Litchfield
> >> (n-litchfield_at_audit-commission.gov.uk) wrote:
> >> NL> Stated like this it is obvious that most tuning efforts are
at
> >> NL> best wasteful of effort (and indeed could probably be done
better
> >> NL> by software which is great at trying hundreds or thousands of

> >> NL> possibilities in a scattergun approach).
> >>
> >> I have seen such software. I don't recall the vendor at the
moment,
> >> but that software exists. You can probably see it demoed at the
next
> >> OracleWorld.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
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