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RE: RE: query slow in 9i, but not slow in 8i

From: Bobak, Mark <Mark.Bobak_at_il.proquest.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2004 13:20:36 -0500
Message-ID: <4C9B6FDA0B06FE4DAF5918BBF0AD82CF03B4530B@bosmail00.bos.il.pqe>


Looks like you got a reply too. By the way, his name is Cary, not Carrie. ;-)

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From: ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net [mailto:ryan.gaffuri_at_cox.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 11:47 AM To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
Subject: RE: RE: query slow in 9i, but not slow in 8i

i put this on asktom and did a name drop to ensure a response(hope that was ok).

http://asktom.oracle.com/pls/ask/f?p=4950:8:4690129998850851286::NO::F4950_P8_DISPLAYID,F4950_P8_CRITERIA:707586567563,

my post is at the bottom of the thread.
>
> From: "Cary Millsap" <cary.millsap_at_hotsos.com>
> Date: 2004/03/03 Wed AM 10:50:30 EST
> To: <oracle-l_at_freelists.org>
> Subject: RE: RE: query slow in 9i, but not slow in 8i
>
> Not a big query at all. If I recall correctly, the query ran in about a
> minute and a quarter--something like 1:15.0, with 1:14.5 consumed in the
> parse. It was some kind of a bug, but I can't remember which. Now that I
> think about it, I'm not even sure whether it was histograms or
> partitions that was causing the problem. Not a lot of value, this foggy
> anecdote of mine :).
>
>
> Cary Millsap
> Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
> http://www.hotsos.com
> * Nullius in verba *
>
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala
> Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 8:23 AM
> To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> Subject: Re: RE: query slow in 9i, but not slow in 8i
>
> Parse time over a minute? Was it a huge query or not? I find it hard to
> believe.
>
>
> On 03/02/2004 09:36:10 PM, Cary Millsap wrote:
> > I don't have access to the data to back this up, but I have seen PARSE
> > call response time move from over a minute to less than a second by
> > eliminating histograms from the equation. I think when I last saw
> this,
> > it was an Oracle8 system.
> >
> >
> > Cary Millsap
> > Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd.
> > http://www.hotsos.com
> > * Nullius in verba *
> >
> > Upcoming events:
> > - Performance Diagnosis 101: 3/23 Park City, 4/6 Seattle
> > - Hotsos Symposium 2004: March 7-10 Dallas
> > - Visit www.hotsos.com for schedule details...
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org
> > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce_at_freelists.org] On Behalf Of Wolfgang Breitling
> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 10:30 PM
> > To: oracle-l_at_freelists.org
> > Subject: Re: RE: query slow in 9i, but not slow in 8i
> >
> > There surely is some "cost" involved in evaluating a histogram during
> > the
> > parse phase, but I doubt that it will be significant enough to be
> > measurable. But histograms change the estimates of the CBO and it is
> > quite
> > possible that the presence of a histogram on a column where the
> content
> > is
> > not skewed enough to really warrant a histogram can change the
> estimates
> >
> > enough to cause the optimizer to use a different, slower access path
> > than
> > without the histogram.
> >
> > At 09:14 PM 3/1/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > >I am unfortunately speaking from heresay, however I heard once that
> > having
> > >histograms all over the place can slow down parsing as they have to
> be
> > >inspected. I was left with the impression that unless the data is
> > skewed
> > >enough to warrant a histogram then there actually is a negative cost
> > >associated with having too many histograms.
> > >
> > >Surely someone on this list can either support me or shoot me down on
> > this
> > >one?
> >
> > Wolfgang Breitling
> > Oracle7, 8, 8i, 9i OCP DBA
> > Centrex Consulting Corporation
> > http://www.centrexcc.com
> >
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