Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V02oL09315 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:02:50 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 66.27.56.212 Received: from www3.fatcity.com (rrcs-west-66-27-56-212.biz.rr.com [66.27.56.212]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h9V02oc09309 for ; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 18:02:50 -0600 Received: (from root@localhost) by www3.fatcity.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h9UKFT330139 for oracle-l@orafaq.net; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:15:29 -0800 Received: by fatcity.com (05-Jun-2003/v1.0g-b73/bab) via fatcity.com id 005D519A; Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:14:24 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2003 12:14:24 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: April Wells Sender: ml-errors@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: April Wells Subject: RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 73; ListGuru (c) 1996-2003 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C39F22.83F1C430" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C39F22.83F1C430 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Same is true for getting the 'cheapest' price for a project that just requires a contractor to work in house. SOMETIMES you get what you pay for, and (from what I understand) occasionally what you deserve. April Wells Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA Corporate Systems Amarillo Texas /\ / \ / \ \ / \/ >\< \ >\< \ Few people really enjoy the simple pleasure of flying a kite Adam Wells age 11 -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L The perception of outsourcing has been that you can send your work offshore, and get it done cheaper, with higher quality. I think that this article helps to dispel that as a myth. It may or may not be less expensive, it may or may not be better. Jared "Jamadagni, Rajendra" Sent by: ml-errors@fatcity.com 10/30/2003 09:49 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L cc: Subject: RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret What is also unfortunate that the company X which outsourced its project to India, didn't do its job right ... If you just want the cheapest Rolex, you can't complain about its quality later on. I am not saying this couldn't have happened, whatever happened is unfortunate, but I am just saying that the company didn't understand CYA sufficiently, it is just a blame game now. C'mon ... I think that article is one side of the coin. Raj ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal. QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art ! -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L List - If a manager seems to be contemplating outsourcing, you might want to post this. Unless you work for an outsourcer. ;-) http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/Hidden_Costs_of_IT_Outso urcing.html Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams@lifetouch.com -- **************************************************************************** ********** This e-mail message is confidential, intended only for the named recipient(s) above and may contain information that is privileged, attorney work product or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. 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Same is true for getting the 'cheapest' price for a project that just requires a contractor to work in house.  SOMETIMES you get what you pay for, and (from what I understand) occasionally what you deserve.
 

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jared.Still@radisys.com [mailto:Jared.Still@radisys.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 2:04 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret


The perception of outsourcing has been that you can send your work offshore,
and get it done cheaper, with higher quality.

I think that this article helps to dispel that as a myth.  It may or may not be
less expensive, it may or may not be better.  

Jared



"Jamadagni, Rajendra" <Rajendra.Jamadagni@espn.com>
Sent by: ml-errors@fatcity.com

 10/30/2003 09:49 AM
 Please respond to ORACLE-L

       
        To:        Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L@fatcity.com>
        cc:        
        Subject:        RE: Outsourcing's dirty secret



What is also unfortunate that the company X which outsourced its project to India, didn't do its job right ... If you just want the cheapest Rolex, you can't complain about its quality later on. I am not saying this couldn't have happened, whatever happened is unfortunate, but I am just saying that the company didn't understand CYA sufficiently, it is just a blame game now.

C'mon ... I think that article is one side of the coin.
Raj
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Rajendra dot Jamadagni at nospamespn dot com
All Views expressed in this email are strictly personal.
QOTD: Any clod can have facts, having an opinion is an art !


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2003 11:59 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


List - If a manager seems to be contemplating outsourcing, you might want to
post this. Unless you work for an outsourcer. ;-)

http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/Hidden_Costs_of_IT_Outsourcing.html

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams@lifetouch.com
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