Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8IGbmu08483 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:37:48 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 66.27.56.213 Received: from www2.fatcity.com (rrcs-west-66-27-56-213.biz.rr.com [66.27.56.213]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h8IGbY508454 for ; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:37:34 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by www2.fatcity.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h8IE1UW30099 for oracle-l@orafaq.net; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 07:01:30 -0700 Received: by fatcity.com (05-Jun-2003/v1.0g-b73/bab) via fatcity.com id 005D060E; Thu, 18 Sep 2003 06:59:48 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2003 06:59:48 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" Sender: ml-errors@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Jamadagni, Rajendra" Subject: RE: Anyone have a copy of DUL ?? Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 73; ListGuru (c) 1996-2003 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_NextPartTM-000-df6467ff-f8fa-4c83-b14c-9a2acf2c556b" ------=_NextPartTM-000-df6467ff-f8fa-4c83-b14c-9a2acf2c556b Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C37DEC.CD8E6B04" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C37DEC.CD8E6B04 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" probably not, in absence of DD it will probably dump column id and table ids and rowids. If you dump a block, you will see that column length is also stored to indicate how many bytes to read. Raj -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Wouldn't something like DUL need to read Oracle's dictionary? My impression is that a lot of stuff in the data files is heavily encoded, like date and number formats. Wouldn't you need the dictionary to understand where one column stops and the next starts, and maybe even where one row ends and the next begins? Dennis Williams DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams@lifetouch.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:40 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L There are DUL?s manual. http://www.fors.com/velpuri2/dul_ucg8.html May be interesting for someone. -----Mensaje original----- De: ml-errors@fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors@fatcity.com]En nombre de Pete Finnigan Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 13:55 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: Re: How to extract data directly from a datafile ? Hi Tanel, A free DUL in C would be very nice to have and to study the source code of. maybe you should also contact Kurt van Meerbeek of jDUL project on sourceforge, maybe you have some ideas or info he doesn't have that could help his efforts or of course Richard's efforts. kind regards Pete -- Pete Finnigan email:pete@petefinnigan.com Web site: http://www.petefinnigan.com - Oracle security audit specialists Book:Oracle security step-by-step Guide - see http://store.sans.org for details. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Pete Finnigan INET: oracle_list@peterfinnigan.demon.co.uk Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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probably not, in absence of DD it will probably dump = column id and table ids and rowids. If you dump a block, you will see = that column length is also stored to indicate how many bytes to = read.

Raj

-----Original Message-----
From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:DWILLIAMS@lifetouch.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:45 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Anyone have a copy of DUL ??


Wouldn't something like DUL need to read Oracle's = dictionary? My impression
is that a lot of stuff in the data files is heavily = encoded, like date and
number formats. Wouldn't you need the dictionary to = understand where one
column stops and the next starts, and maybe even = where one row ends and the
next begins?

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams@lifetouch.com


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 7:40 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




There are DUL?s manual.
http://www.fors.com/velpuri2/dul_ucg8.html

May be interesting for someone.


-----Mensaje original-----
De: ml-errors@fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors@fatcity.com]E= n nombre de
Pete Finnigan
Enviado el: jueves, 18 de septiembre de 2003 = 13:55
Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Asunto: Re: How to extract data directly from a = datafile ?


Hi Tanel,

A free DUL in C would be very nice to have and to = study the source code
of. maybe you should also contact Kurt van Meerbeek = of jDUL project on
sourceforge, maybe you have some ideas or info he = doesn't have that
could help his efforts or of course Richard's = efforts.

kind regards

Pete
--
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Web site: http://www.petefinnigan.com - Oracle security = audit specialists
Book:Oracle security step-by-step Guide - see http://store.sans.org for
details.

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