RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

The SCO Linux litigation that is raging right now is such a nightmare of FUD and absurd legal process. For starters, SCO's UNIX implementation is dead in the water - not only was it the worst UNIX I've ever worked with, but even SCO has no plans to aggresively continue development on it. Only the Linux stuff is even moving forward, and that's all about the legal issues going on now.

The issue at question is SCO's ownership of the original AT&T UNIX copyright and licensing. SCO is claiming several things, the core bits being that its "proprietary" code has made its way into Linux in violation of its licensing agreement with IBM. IBM, for their part, claims that the suit is invalid on its face and is countersuing. SCO yanked IBM's license to distribute UNIX, which IBM claims is not even possible. The lawyers are hard at work.

As best as anyone has been able to determine, all of the code SCO has revealed as being in question was licensed freely to the community by Caldera before Caldera's acquisition/merger with SCO. Beyond that, some of the disputed code dates back to System 4 UNIX and is available in USENET archives - hardly very proprietary.

While IANAL, I would be shocked if SCO won any piece of this litigation. It appears as though SCO expected to get settlements out of IBM and other major players, and instead is going to get destroyed in court by IBM. Remember, IBM fought the US Government in court and actually wore them down (the example I keep hearing is the brief IBM filed that was 4 filing cabinets in size and took two years for the government to read - possibly apocryphal). SCO should lose, and good riddance to them.

*climbs off his soapbox*

Thanks,
Matt

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> From: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com [mailto:ml-errors_at_fatcity.com] On 

> Behalf Of Mladen Gogala

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> Subject: RE: Re: OT - Linux books ??

> 

> 

> AIX phased out in favor of Linux? I believe that SCO asked 

> for injunction to prevent IBM from distributing AIX, and 

> there is a whole saga around SCO and Linux. According to some, 

> Unix variants are like higlanders: there can be only one. If 

> you ask Mr. Darl McBride, 

> it's going to be SCO. Hopefully, MR. McBride will not lose his head.

> 

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> Matthew Zito

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> 

> 

> And of course, there's the other free UNIXes - the BSDs 

> (OpenBSD, FreeBSD, NetBSD).  Tragically, none of these run 

> Oracle (FreeBSD can run Oracle in Linux emulation mode - 

> which seems backwards at best).  And there's OS X, which is 

> Apple's UNIX, and also runs Oracle.

> 

> As far as AIX, I couldn't find an article to verify this, but 

> I had thought IBM had announced that AIX would eventually be 

> phased out in favor of Linux. This is not a short-term plan, 

> obviously the existing install base of AIX precludes that.  

> But, eventually...  And if I imagined that announcement, I'd 

> still wager money that its going to happen. :)

> 

> Thanks,

> Matt

> 

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> > 

> > Well, IBM has AIX, a very solid and stable version of unix 

> which works 

> > really well. SCO has become very popular lately and using SCO Unix

> > will turn you into the most popular guy on this list. Then 

> > there is Irix, made by SGI. HP actually has several unix 

> > versions Tru64, HP-UX, Tandem Unix, Ultrix, Apollo Unix and some 

> > more exotic operating systems like OpenVMS, MPE, Guardian and 

> > alike. If you go with HP, I do advise you to stick with HP-UX.

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> > so different flavors of linux are more compatible?

> > 

> > i thought the only two unix players out there now are HP 

> and Solaris. 

> > who else is out there?

> > 

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