Sobig -F does carry out spoofing , but Jared here is a question : either
which way (spoofed or not) wouldn't list-guru remove all attached binaries ?
Anyway I am not going to open any such mails.
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To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 23:25
> Wasn't from me. Our virus checker here at work would stop it.
>
> From home I use Linux, so I'm not propagating virusii from there.
>
> That would require that I manually forward a message with a virus.
>
> That is also not likely, since my ISP stops those.
>
> A virus will spoof someones email address when that address is
> found in the address book of the infected machine, typically a PC
> running Outlook.
>
> As SoBig has it's own SMTP engine, this is likely what happened.
>
> Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Dilip Patel" <patel_dil_at_msn.com>
> Sent by: ml-errors_at_fatcity.com
> 08/25/2003 10:14 AM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
<ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> cc:
> Subject: Hey Jared
>
>
> Jared,
> Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject line.
>
> It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So wanted to
>
> make sure before i open it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> >From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed
> >Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800
> >
> >
> >Here's a perfect example of an email that should
> >never have been sent.
> >
> >Sigh... I'll learn one of these days.
> >
> >This does not characterize the people I work for,
> >as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do
> >understand technology.
> >
> >It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past
> >experiences.
> >
> >Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'.
> >
> >Jared
> >
> >On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote:
> > > Mladen,
> > >
> > > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.
> > >
> > > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in?
> > >
> > > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds.
> > >
> > > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit
> > > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't.
> > >
> > > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I
> > > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult.
> > >
> > > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all
> > > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it.
> > >
> > > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism,
> > > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me
> > > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for.
> > >
> > > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are,
> > > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope
> > > to understand.
> > >
> > > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop
> > > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has
> > > finally learned how to use google.
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor which
>
> >had
> > > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of all
> of
> >them and
> > > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of
> >building them
> > > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the
> >lines of "if
> > > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but it
>
> >certainly
> > > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another colorful
> >comment
> > > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his
> >CIO/CFO
> > > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has
> >expedited
> > > > > his prediction...
> > > >
> > > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer
> geeks
> >(my
> > > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard core
>
> >computer
> > > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to
> >understand.
> > > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly
> willing
> >to
> > > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of the
> >company.
> > > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at
> several
> > > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even if
> >lawyers
> > > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database
> >administrators,
> > > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the
> switch.
> > > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to
> kill
> > > > a nice and seet little wabbit?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Mladen Gogala
> > > > Oracle DBA
> > > > --
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> > > > --
> > > > Author: Mladen Gogala
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