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Re: Hey Jared

From: Joe Testa <jtesta_at_dmc-it.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 09:45:01 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005CD0C8.20030825094501@fatcity.com>


Jared's sending viruses, nahnahnahnah(ok i know it spoofed but thought i'd make fun of him anyways, besides i've been getting bounce messages from email addys that dont exist on "viruses" i've sent and i dont run windows, so I KNOW those are spoofed).

joe

Dilip Patel wrote:

> Jared,
> Did you send the list/me some mail with "Your Details" as subject
> line. It has some .pif file as extention. Maybe that is some virus, So
> wanted to make sure before i open it.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>> From: Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com>
>> Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>> Subject: Re: Nature of Oracle-l has changed
>> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 04:39:17 -0800
>>
>>
>> Here's a perfect example of an email that should
>> never have been sent.
>>
>> Sigh... I'll learn one of these days.
>>
>> This does not characterize the people I work for,
>> as they're a pretty good bunch and actually do
>> understand technology.
>>
>> It's more of a generalized rant fueled by past
>> experiences.
>>
>> Should have hit 'delete' on this one instead of 'send'.
>>
>> Jared
>>
>> On Sun, 2003-08-24 at 11:19, Jared Still wrote:
>> > Mladen,
>> >
>> > My version of the explanation of this goes back to childhood.
>> >
>> > When you were in school, just which crowd were those execs in?
>> >
>> > The 'in' crowd, the jocks, the party hounds.
>> >
>> > If like me, you were one of the 'eggheads', you didn't fit
>> > in so well with their clique, and maybe you still don't.
>> >
>> > When in school, I was told I would be more popular if I
>> > "wasn't so smart". I was even told that once as an adult.
>> >
>> > After pondering that for a bit, I decided they could all
>> > bite the green weenie if they didn't like it.
>> >
>> > This is probably how I earned my Hawkeye Pierce like cynicism,
>> > which I do work hard at keeping in check, lest it cause me
>> > more problems with the former 'in' folk that I now work for.
>> >
>> > 'They' don't like it when people are smarter than they are,
>> > and understand things they don't understand, and can't hope
>> > to understand.
>> >
>> > Hmm, this is getting a but cynical, so I guess I'll stop
>> > before I provide too much fodder for an HR type that has
>> > finally learned how to use google.
>> >
>> > Jared
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sat, 2003-08-23 at 17:19, Mladen Gogala wrote:
>> > >
>> > > On 2003.08.23 18:34, Tim Gorman wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Six years ago, a CIO commented to me, waving down a corridor
>> which had
>> > > > offices full of developers, "If I had my way, I'd get rid of
>> all of them and
>> > > > replace them with lawyers. We'd buy applications instead of
>> building them
>> > > > and then sue the vendors." My response was something along the
>> lines of "if
>> > > > you think developers are expensive, go price some lawyers", but
>> it certainly
>> > > > bounced off him. At the time, I took it as just another
>> colorful comment
>> > > > from a colorful guy. But he was dead serious, along with his
>> CIO/CFO
>> > > > brethren, and the passing of Y2K and the dot-com bubble pop has
>> expedited
>> > > > his prediction...
>> > >
>> > > I always wondered where does this prejudice against us, computer
>> geeks (my
>> > > apologies to anyone offended by that expression, but I'm a hard
>> core computer
>> > > geek) comes from? I must say that this prejudice is very hard to
>> understand.
>> > > IT people are very well educated, very hard working, regularly
>> willing to
>> > > work long hours and sacrifice their weekends for the benefit of
>> the company.
>> > > I found that very same attitude against the "darned geeks" at
>> several
>> > > executives and managers of several companies I worked for. Even
>> if lawyers
>> > > are much more expensive the programmers, system and database
>> administrators,
>> > > application designers, they are still very willing to make the
>> switch.
>> > > I'm not quite sure why are we so hated? Why would anyone want to
>> kill
>> > > a nice and seet little wabbit?
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Mladen Gogala
>> > > Oracle DBA
>> > > --
>> > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net
>> > > --
>> > > Author: Mladen Gogala
>> > > INET: mgogala_at_adelphia.net
>> > >
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>> > Author: Jared Still
>> > INET: jkstill_at_cybcon.com
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>> Author: Jared Still
>> INET: jkstill_at_cybcon.com
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