Same here. I've actually had 14400 modem on my desk. Before that, I was
using 9600 modems and kermit or "SET HOST/X25"
(once upon a time on a VAX far, far away....)
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Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
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rup
Nanda
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 11:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Tim, WebIV? I must have skipped a generation; I used the OraSupport forum on
CompuServe before the MetaLink. You had to subscribe to CompuServe; and it
was accessible only through dial-up; so we had dial-up lines at our desk,
had to buy external modems, and all that. And I thought WebIV was and still
is only for Oracle Consulting and Support Staff.
Arup
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To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 9:44 AM
Good point! Another war story...
Some 6 years ago, during v7.3.3 timeframe, a DBA decided to modify INITIAL,
NEXT, and PCTINCREASE of everything, including stuff in SYSTEM.
Unfortunately, he chose first to do this in pre-PROD (to become PROD
following week). Turns out he ran into a little-known bug (aren't they all,
at first?) whereby any ALTER TABLE to the table named SYS.BOOTSTRAP$ causes
a single bit to be set in the segment header block. This single bit being
set causes ORA-00600 on instance startup.
You guessed it: the night before go live, they had a junior DBA stop and
restart the instance at 12:30am. Poor guy stayed up all night, I got there
around 6:00am, we found the cause and convinced Oracle Support to dial in
and BBED the problem into submission by 1:00pm. MetaLink didn't exist in
those days - we had access to MetaLink's predecessor, called "WebIV"...
Don't change the stuff in the SYSTEM tablespace, which includes the
tablespace itself. Keep "foreign stuff" (i.e. not belonging to SYS, SYSTEM,
MDSYS, ORDSYS, OUTLN, etc) out of it and just leave it alone.
on 8/18/03 4:59 AM, rgaffuri_at_cox.net at rgaffuri_at_cox.net wrote:
i thought you should leave the system table space to the defaults? Ive never
touched System.
you really should change system to locally managed tablespaces?
>
> From: Tim Gorman <tim_at_sagelogix.com>
> Date: 2003/08/17 Sun PM 11:19:23 EDT
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> Subject: Re: system tablespace at 50 pct_increase in 9i?
>
> Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the
> issue altogether?
>
>
> on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at rgaffuri_at_cox.net wrote:
>
> > any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in
9i? I k
> > now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero?
> >
> > Ryan
> >
>
>
>
>
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Better yet, use locally-managed SYSTEM tablespace and dispense with the
issue altogether?
on 8/17/03 5:39 PM, Ryan at rgaffuri_at_cox.net wrote:
any idea why oracle has the system tablespace using 50 pct_increase in 9i? I
k now it did that in the past, but why not set it to zero?
Ryan
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