Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h790nHs31990 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:49:17 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 66.27.56.212 Received: from www3.fatcity.com (rrcs-west-66-27-56-212.biz.rr.com [66.27.56.212]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h790nHp31985 for ; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 19:49:17 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by www3.fatcity.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h78MAfI10927 for oracle-l@orafaq.net; Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:10:41 -0700 Received: by fatcity.com (05-Jun-2003/v1.0g-b73/bab) via fatcity.com id 005C9B0B; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:04:23 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 15:04:23 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Nick Wagner" Sender: ml-errors@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Nick Wagner" Subject: RE: SharePlex Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 73; ListGuru (c) 1996-2003 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C35DF9.243D2BA7" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35DF9.243D2BA7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I know a little of their product... but I think you should be well = aware of the limitations before attempting to implement it. Here are a = couple of questions to ask the technical folks over there... =20 1) What happens when someone applies an Oracle Financials patch to the = system. What is the procedure? 2) Do you have anyone else running Financials 11i that you could talk to = as a reference? 3) Do they support IOT's? (Which Financials has a lot of) 4) How much downtime is normally associated with something like adding a = new table or dropping one from replication? =20 =20 Nick =20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:44 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We are not running 9i but 8.1.7.4, sorry for not including that = earlier. We are rolling out to our international offices and we = basically have offices in every time zone. I'm looking at SharePlex for = HA, reporting use, and potentially migrating from HP to Linux. They = will be on Linux next month. =20 Allan -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 4:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Nelson, =20 SharePlex does the same basic thing that Oracle does for the logical = standby, as a matter of fact if your running 9i why not use that instead = of Quests's pricey tool? I don't believe there is any additional cost = to using logical standby over the second server license that your going = to have to pay anyway. =20 Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA=20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 5:14 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello,=20 Quest is trying to sell us a product named SharePlex. It sounds very = attractive, but then sales people are supposed to be good at that. We = are a mid sized company, about 2.2 billion per year, running Financials = 11.5.7. We are interested in this for HA and for reporting instance = use. =20 =20 We use Cognos as our query tool and the owners of this product tells me = that we can't tune the SQL it emits. It makes pretty poor choices, = which is not surprising for a gooey, sticky tool designed for end users. = It is sort of pretty and if you can drool you too can generate cross = products. Anyway , I'd like to get them off the production box. =20 Does SharePlex allow you to stay close to the production instance in = time? Does the store and forward work well? Do you love it? Hate it? = Anything you'd like to say about this product I'd like to hear Thanks in advance=20 =20 Allan L. Nelson Oracle DBA=20 M-I L.L.C. (832) 295-2238 office (832) 351-4180 fax anelson@midf.com < mailto:anelson@midf.com>=20 _________________________________________________________________________= _____ This email is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is = addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. = Copying, forwarding or distributing this message by persons or entities = other than the addressee is prohibited. If you have received this email = in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the material = from any computer. This email may have been monitored for policy = compliance. [021216] ------_=_NextPart_001_01C35DF9.243D2BA7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message
I know=20 a little of their product...   but I think you should be well = aware of=20 the limitations before attempting to implement it.  Here are a = couple of=20 questions to ask the technical folks over there...
 
1) What happens when someone applies an Oracle Financials = patch to=20 the system.  What is the procedure?
2) Do=20 you have anyone else running Financials 11i that you could talk to = as a=20 reference?
3) Do=20 they support IOT's? (Which Financials has a lot of)
4) How=20 much downtime is normally associated with something like adding a new = table or=20 dropping one from replication? 
 
Nick
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson, Allan=20 [mailto:anelson@midf.com]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 3:44=20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: = RE:=20 SharePlex

We are=20 not running 9i  but 8.1.7.4, sorry for not including that = earlier.  We=20 are rolling out to our international offices and we basically have = offices in=20 every time zone.  I'm looking at SharePlex for HA, reporting use, = and=20 potentially migrating from HP to Linux.  They will be on Linux next = month.
 
Allan
-----Original Message-----
From: = Goulet, Dick=20 [mailto:DGoulet@vicr.com]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 = 4:59=20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L
Subject: RE:=20 SharePlex

Nelson,
 
    SharePlex does the same basic thing that = Oracle does for=20 the logical standby, as a matter of fact if your running 9i why not = use that=20 instead of Quests's pricey tool?  I don't believe there is any = additional=20 cost to using logical standby over the second server license that your = going=20 to have to pay anyway.
 

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified = 8i=20 DBA

-----Original Message-----
From: Nelson, Allan=20 [mailto:anelson@midf.com]
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 = 5:14=20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L
Subject:=20 SharePlex

Hello,

Quest is trying to sell us a product = named=20 SharePlex.  It sounds very attractive, but then sales people = are=20 supposed to be good at that.  We are a mid sized company, about = 2.2=20 billion per year, running Financials 11.5.7.  We are interested = in this=20 for HA and for reporting instance use. 

<rant>
We use Cognos as our query tool and the owners of this = product tells=20 me that we can't tune the SQL it emits.  It makes pretty poor = choices,=20 which is not surprising for a gooey, sticky tool designed for end=20 users.  It is sort of pretty and if you can drool you too can = generate=20 cross products.  Anyway , I'd like to get them off the = production=20 box.

<rant/>

Does SharePlex allow you to stay = close to the=20 production instance in time?  Does the store and forward work=20 well?  Do you love it?  Hate it?  Anything you'd like = to say=20 about this product I'd like to hear

Thanks in advance
 =20

    Allan L.=20 Nelson
    Oracle DBA
    M-I L.L.C.
    (832) 295-2238=20 office
    (832) 351-4180 = fax
    anelson@midf.com = <mailto:anelson@midf.com>



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