Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6UHkKk10308 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:46:20 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 66.27.56.212 Received: from www3.fatcity.com (rrcs-west-66-27-56-212.biz.rr.com [66.27.56.212]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h6UHkKp10303 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 12:46:20 -0500 Received: (from root@localhost) by www3.fatcity.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h6UEoar17935 for oracle-l@orafaq.net; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:50:36 -0700 Received: by fatcity.com (05-Jun-2003/v1.0g-b73/bab) via fatcity.com id 005C7D78; Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:44:23 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2003 07:44:23 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: Daniel Fink Sender: ml-errors@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: Daniel Fink Subject: Re: Is it Veritas or is it smoke and mirrors? again Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 73; ListGuru (c) 1996-2003 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------9C44DFF672689BA0AA554F5E" --------------9C44DFF672689BA0AA554F5E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Michael Kline wrote: > > There seems to be some big confusion if Veritas is > working or not... snip... > Recovery has NEVER been tested. > > > Michael Alan Kline, Sr. > Principal Consultant > Business to Business Solutions, LLC > Phone: 804-744-1545 Cell: 804-314-6262 > ICQ: 1009605, 975313 > Email: mkline@b2bsol.com Web: www.b2bsol.com > The two are related. If recovery has never been properly tested, you don't know if your backups (veritas, rman, ksh/sql scripts) are working. Period. End of story. I've encountered enough software/hardware problems to not trust that an 'error free' backup will be recoverable. If the database is not being taken down, or tablespaces are not being put into backup mode, or RMAN is not being used, I'd suspect that none of the backups are recoverable. Daniel "The DBA's job is not to backup the database, but to recover it." Fink --------------9C44DFF672689BA0AA554F5E Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="daniel.fink.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Daniel Fink Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="daniel.fink.vcf" begin:vcard n:Fink;Daniel tel;cell:303.808.3282 tel;work:303.272.3225 x-mozilla-html:TRUE adr:;;;;;; version:2.1 email;internet:daniel.fink@sun.com title:DB Services Lead x-mozilla-cpt:;-4832 fn:Daniel Fink end:vcard --------------9C44DFF672689BA0AA554F5E-- -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Daniel Fink INET: daniel.fink@sun.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).