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RE: RMAN - Remote vs Local Backups

From: Ron Rogers <RROGERS_at_galottery.org>
Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 04:33:26 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.005A6B9B.20030530043326@fatcity.com>


-w.
 The method I use to perform the RMAN backup is different than the question you posed.

Box-a is the database(target). OpenVMS - Production server Box-b is the repository(catalog) database. OpenVMS - Development server
Box-c is the controling(cron source). Linux - play and learn server.

 I have the Box-c cron run the RMAN commands and connect to the target and catalog servers. The box-c RMAN then initiates the backup level0 and level2 at different days that I set in the cron. The log of events are stored on the box-c ( for ease of reading and access) The RMAN backups are stored on the box-a disks eliminating network traffic and ease of restoral if needed. Box-a has a large storage capacity for the RMAN backups and the backups are copied to tape nightly by the os backup. The network traffic is as follows:

box-a to box-b catalog information only.
box-a to box-c RMAN commands and log info.
box-c to box-b RMAN commands.

It keeps the traffic to a minamum and allows me the ability the perform the RMAN functions on an OS that is friendly to me. Ron
>>> ora1034_at_sbcglobal.net 05/29/03 05:30PM >>>
Thanks Tim, Dennis and Ron for your feedback. I appreciate it.  

Let me clarify what I'm seeking. In my example, I am using a centralized catalog which is on its own dedicated database/server and backups are to tape. BCV's are not involved.  

Normally, in my experience, RMAN backups are initiated from the target server via a cron job. But, I've seen a case where a cron job for an RMAN backup was run from a box that was different from the database server machine. I find this configuration strange and confusing because it implies this was done for a "reason" and makes life difficult to find out where all the backups are running from.  

In the scenario of backing up the database on box A via an rman/cron job on box B, is this particular configuration more network resource intensive and therefore slower versus the backup being initiated from the same machine as the database? If not, could someone explain why?  

Does this make sense?  

Thanks again.
-w    

DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM> wrote: Walter - As RMAN was introduced in Oracle8i, that was the ideal. I think
Oracle viewed RMAN as a high-level feature that would help you manage the
backups for large server farms. They emphasized that the catalog was the way
to go. With the catalog on another box, if the server was toasted, you could
slide another system into that spot and with a couple of RMAN commands you
could have that up and going again. Obviously if you use the catalog method
on the box you are backing up, you must have a second instance, and even
then you introduce more vulnerabilities than the configuration where the
catalog is on another server.
With Oracle9i, Oracle added many of the features that were only available in the catalog method to the control-file method. According to my
Oracle Education Instructor John Hibbard who is pretty plugged into these
things, Oracle is trying to emphasize that the catalog method may not suit
everyone's situation and the control file method may best suit your needs.
As others on this list have pointed out, not all conference speakers have
gotten that message.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Hi,

Can anyone think of a reason(s) why one WOULD want to backup a database from
a box other than the database box itself? Are there any advantages to this
kind of configuration?

For example:

Box-A (production db server)
Box-B (rman db server)

A cron job runs on Box-B which backups up the database from Box-A.

Thanks in advance!

-w

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