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RE: quickest method

From: DENNIS WILLIAMS <DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM>
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 16:32:19 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.0059A4A8.20030515163219@fatcity.com>


Carol - To adequately compare methods, you need to make sure you've done some modest tuning. Try different parameters to see if the method becomes much faster. That is what makes benchmarking so time-consuming.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams_at_lifetouch.com

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Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 1:27 PM
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I just finished a test in my environment with a table that has just over 1,000,000 rows.
I used Sql*Plus' COPY command to move between instances on different servers

(within same local network) and it took only 1 minute. Pretty impressive speed.

I am running an Import now (on the same data) and its pathetically slow. Not done yet and its already hit almost 10 minutes. Blah.

I will try testing the DB Links ... I'll be curious to see how quickly it works in this situation. I'll post the results here ... for those who may be

interested to know.

Carol

>From: "Jankovic, Djordje" <Djordje.Jankovic_at_attcanada.com>
>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>Subject: RE: quickest method
>Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 09:21:43 -0800
>
>If the source and target are on separate servers sql*loader approach
>requires spooling data to a file, ftp-ing the file over, running
>sql*loader. Depending of the size of the data, direct load through
>database links (insert /*append*/ select ... from xyz_at_link) can be faster
>than that.
>
>Export/Import can be done through named pipes, even when source and target
>are on different servers. Anybody tried sql*loader through named pipes: I
>guess it is doable?
>
>Djordje
>
>-----Original Message-----
>[mailto:MATT.ADAMS_at_appl.ge.com]
>Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2003 8:35 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
>
>the sqlplus copy command is not inheirantly slow.
>I think it has a MAJOR dependance on the speed of
>the disk farm and the speed of the network.
>
>We used it yesterday to move a 52 million row
>table (about 7 gig) in about 52 minutes.
>That's not bad. SQL*Loader may have done it faster,
>but we were satisifed with the speed of the 'copy'
>command.
>
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>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 8:00 PM
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>
>
>A minor addendum:
>Based on this info, I'd say that using the sqlplus copy command is
>probably the slowest. In one scenario using sqlplus copy to copy some
>tables, about 5 hours into what turned out to be a 12 hour process, I
>started exporting the same tables, copied across to the target server,
>and imported in less than 1/3 the time.
>I don't have a lot of experience with SQL Loader, but in a few
>optimized cases (using direct load), SQL Loader screamed.
>
> >>> Jared.Still_at_radisys.com 05/14/03 06:01PM >>>
>Carol,
>
>Hands down, SQL Loader is the fastest.
>
>Export/Import is rather slow.
>
>SQL and PL/SQL commands can be on either side of exp/imp, depending
>on what you are doing and how well the code is written.
>
>e.g. SQL statements are fairly fast, PL/SQL for loops are not. Pl/SQL
>
>bulk
>processing is fast.
>
>
>Unless you need the programatic abilities of PL/SQL, use SQL Loader.
>
>Exp/Imp can still be useful, even with SQL Loader. Use exp/imp to
>build
>your tables, then the indexes and constraints after the data is
>loader.
>
>No pat answer as to how to load data, depends on your requirements.
>
>There's probably no point in messing with SQL Loader if the data sets
>are small, and you can easily export from another database and then
>import.
>
>If the data is in CSV or flat files though, and/or is very large, SQL
>Loader
>is very fast.
>
>HTH
>
>Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Carol Legros" <carol_legros_at_hotmail.com>
>Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> 05/14/2003 02:57 PM
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> Subject: quickest method
>
>
>I'm curious to know whether anyone out there has seen a comparison
>discussing the pros and cons and/or results of any simulation tests
>that
>compare the speed with which data can be loaded into a target database
>
>from
>a source (database or flat file) using the following 3 methods :
>
>(i) Export (from source), Import (to target)
>(ii) SQL*Loader (to target)
>(iii) SQL or PL/SQL commands (insert to target)
> using a Database Link between source &
> target
>
>I'm working on a data loading strategy and since there are "many ways
>to
>skin a cat", I'm considering these as options. Of course, there are
>other
>
>criteria that impact the method chosen, but assuming all things are
>equal
>(ie network bandwidth is good, access to both source and target are not
>an
>
>issue etc.), which of these methods would be quickest ?
>
>Thanks,
>Carol
>
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