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RE: Database Ethics/Career Path

From: Orr, Steve <sorr_at_rightnow.com>
Date: Thu, 08 May 2003 09:21:56 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00593FFD.20030508092156@fatcity.com>


You sadist! Oh the pain. Mercy please... or a six pack of Moose Drool.

-----Original Message-----
[mailto:Scott.Shafer_at_dcpds.cpms.osd.mil] Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:17 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

A case of Stroh's Light would probably help. ;-)

Scott Shafer
San Antonio, TX
210.581.6217

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Orr, Steve [SMTP:sorr_at_rightnow.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 10:52 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Database Ethics/Career Path
>
> Ouch!! But now ski season is over and I'm stuck on the ground while Walt
> soars. :-)
>
> We share a "DBA Cell Phone" and I left it on vibrate after my kids piano
> recital Sunday. Wouldn't you know, there was a midnight trouble call and I
> didn't answer the vibrating phone so they called Walt at home and now I
> owe him big time. Any suggestions for my punishment?
>
> Steve
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Farnsworth, Dave [mailto:DFarnsworth_at_ashleyfurniture.com]
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:27 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Database Ethics/Career Path
>
>
> The book will be titled;
>
> "I Ski While Walt Works"
>
> ;o)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us
> [mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
> Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 9:47 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Database Ethics/Career Path
>
>
>
> Geez Steve,
>
> Excellent response. You certainly do communicate very well
> in e-mail. Ever thought of writing a book?
>
> Oracle OCP DBA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Orr, Steve [ <mailto:sorr_at_rightnow.com>]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 7:17 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: Database Ethics/Career Path
>
>
> If you ever do find the perfect company don't go to work
> there otherwise it will no longer be perfect! :-)
>
> As I see it, we're responsible for maintaining the database
> but not for data content and/or usage. To say that we're responsible for
> content and usage is like blaming the telephone company for transmitting
> foul language spoken by others.
>
> The mere existence of personal data degrades privacy. Social
> Security numbers are unconstitutional so if you store them you've violated
> someone's rights. I'm sure that sometime in every company's history a
> damager has discriminated somehow whether wittingly or no. In fact, the
> Supreme Court has instructed employers and universities on HOW they should
> discriminate by law. Bolts and screws could be used in the assembly of all
> kinds of weapons. If your company manufactures widgets which are used by
> automobile manufacturers and a member of the CIA drives one of those cars
> then you are supporting weapons procurement however tangential. Where does
> it ever end??? Oh yeah, if you drive an SUV you're supporting terrorists.
> And of course, if you have anything to do with the media then you're
> supporting weapons of mass seduction. ;-)
>
> OK, tongue in cheek rant fun over... If a company is
> involved in overtly illegal or blatantly immoral activity that's one thing
> but anything else is just daily life in the not-so-black-and-white city.
> Let your light glimmer and...
>
> LET HIM WHO IS WITHOUT CORRUPT DATA CAST THE FIRST STONE!
> :-)
>
> Only NULL data is possibly perfect and unexecuted SQL is the
> MOST efficient.
>
>
> Steve Orr
> Not a member of the Freemen in Montana. :-)
>
> I fell off my high horse, he ran away and I can't find
> him...
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 3:08 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Wow.
>
> <shocked silence>
>
> How were you able to find a job?
>
> --Walt Weaver
> Bozeman, Montana
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Odland, Brad [ <mailto:Brad.Odland_at_qtiworld.com>]
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:32 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Database Ethics/Career Path
> >
> > I for one
> > decided a few years ago that I would NOT work on databases
> or
> > for companies
> > that degrade personal privacy, violate the constitution,
> discriminate
> > against individuals, aid in the production of weapons or
> interfere the
> > rights of due process. No matter how much they pay...it
> just
> > was not worth
> > it in my eyes.
> >
> > Something to think about...while you tune queries...
> >
> > Brad Odland
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> Author: Orr, Steve
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