Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45K6P123763 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:06:25 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45K6OA23758 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 15:06:24 -0500 Received: from fatcity.com (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id KAA79161; Mon, 5 May 2003 10:41:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 0058FE12; Mon, 05 May 2003 10:29:50 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 10:29:50 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Goulet, Dick" Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Goulet, Dick" Subject: RE: Oracle 10 Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3132B.F3021ACE" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3132B.F3021ACE Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable More info on the subject at: http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/article.asp?liArticleID=3D121406 = &liFlavourID=3D1 =20 Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA=20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 2:03 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Actually I think what they showed is really going to be part of OEM4. My = understanding is that the 1st release will be out in the coming weeks = with a .1 release ( with functionality like a pocketpc version) to be = out in q3/4 timeframe. Oracle 10( or whatever its called ) will be = unveiled at Oracle(Open)World in September. -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:27 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L doing it right rather than monkeying around with bells and whistles... = weird concept. =20 The kid that demo-ed it would have been more impressive if he had once = showed the audience the cool toy, rather than the VP the cool toy. =20 =20 April Wells=20 Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA=20 Corporate Systems=20 Amarillo Texas=20 Well-behaved women rarely make history=20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 11:47 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Sure, the Oracle 'boy' did demo this auto patching stuff and it all = looked pretty impressive..... One more check-mark in the list of things = the DBAs do today, that can be taken away from them :)=20 =20 But my little brain kept wondering......=20 ..... as to why would Oracle come up with this wonderful feature? Why = can't they use such brilliant Developers to concentrate on thoroughly = testing their code so it does not need a lot of patchwork. Patching = should be an exception, not a routine procedure that needs automation !! = =20 BTW.. The new release may not be called 10i, after all. =20 =20 - Kirti =20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:02 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Did find out that it will automatically download and install all patches = and OEM will allow it to be scheduled so that you don't actually have to = do anything. I think the boy who demoed that said it was a wonderful = new feature. April Wells=20 Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA=20 Corporate Systems=20 Amarillo Texas=20 Well-behaved women rarely make history=20 -----Original Message-----=20 Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:32 AM=20 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20 So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the IOUG?=20 I wasn't there, but am curious.=20 Patrice.=20 --=20 Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net=20 --=20 Author: Boivin, Patrice J=20 INET: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca=20 The information contained in this communication, including attachments, = is strictly=20 confidential and for the intended use of the addressee only; it may also = contain=20 proprietary, price sensitive, or legally privileged information. Notice = is hereby given that=20 any disclosure, distribution, dissemination, use, or copying of the = information by anyone=20 other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited and may be = illegal. If you have=20 received this communication in error, please notify the sender = immediately by reply e-mail,=20 delete this communication, and destroy all copies. =20 Corporate Systems, Inc. has taken reasonable precautions to ensure that = any attachment to=20 this e-mail has been swept for viruses. We specifically disclaim all = liability and will=20 accept no responsibility for any damage sustained as a result of = software viruses and advise=20 you to carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachment. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3132B.F3021ACE Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Oracle 10
More=20 info on the subject at:
http://www.computerweekly.com/articles/articl= e.asp?liArticleID=3D121406&liFlavourID=3D1
 

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified = 8i DBA=20

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Johnson=20 [mailto:Tony_Johnson@Trimble.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 = 2:03=20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: = RE:=20 Oracle 10

Actually I think what they showed is really going to be part of = OEM4. My=20 understanding is that the 1st release will be out in the coming weeks = with a .1=20 release ( with functionality like a pocketpc version) to be out in q3/4=20 timeframe. Oracle 10( or whatever its called ) will be unveiled at=20 Oracle(Open)World in September.
-----Original Message-----
From: April Wells=20 [mailto:awells@csedge.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:27=20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L
Subject: RE:=20 Oracle 10

doing it right rather than monkeying around with bells and = whistles...=20 weird concept.
 
The kid that demo-ed it would have been more impressive if he = had once=20 showed the audience the cool toy, rather than the VP the cool = toy. =20
 

April Wells
Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA =
Corporate Systems
Amarillo=20 Texas
Well-behaved women rarely make = history

-----Original Message-----
From: Deshpande, Kirti = [mailto:kirti.deshpande@verizon.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, = 2003=20 11:47 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list=20 ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Oracle 10

Sure, the Oracle 'boy' did demo this auto patching = stuff and it=20 all looked pretty impressive.....  One more check-mark in = the list=20 of things the DBAs do today, that can be taken away from them :)=20
 
But my little brain kept wondering...... =
  ..... as to why would Oracle come up with this=20 wonderful feature? Why can't they use such=20 brilliant Developers to concentrate on thoroughly testing = their=20 code so it does not need a lot of patchwork. = Patching=20 should be an exception, not a routine procedure that needs = automation !!=20
 
BTW.. The new release may not be called 10i, after = all. =20
 
-=20 Kirti   
-----Original Message-----
From: April Wells=20 [mailto:awells@csedge.com]
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 = 9:02=20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L
Subject:=20 RE: Oracle 10

Did find out that it will automatically download = and=20 install all patches and OEM will allow it to be scheduled so that = you=20 don't actually have to do anything.  I think the boy who = demoed that=20 said it was a wonderful new feature.

April Wells
Oracle = DBA/Oracle Apps=20 DBA
Corporate Systems
Amarillo Texas
Well-behaved = women rarely=20 make history


-----Original Message-----
From:=20 Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.c= a]=20
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:32 AM =
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: Oracle 10


So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at = the=20 IOUG?

I wasn't there, but am curious.

Patrice.
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