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RE: Oracle 10Why?
Because Oracle tries to follow (stupidly) MS in some regards?

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
ineyman@perceptron.com
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Deshpande, Kirti=20
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
  Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:47 PM
  Subject: RE: Oracle 10


  Sure, the Oracle 'boy' did demo this auto patching stuff and it all =
looked pretty impressive.....  One more check-mark in the list of things =
the DBAs do today, that can be taken away from them :)=20

  But my little brain kept wondering......=20
    ..... as to why would Oracle come up with this wonderful feature? =
Why can't they use such brilliant Developers to concentrate on =
thoroughly testing their code so it does not need a lot of patchwork. =
Patching should be an exception, not a routine procedure that needs =
automation !!=20

  BTW.. The new release may not be called 10i, after all. =20

  - Kirti  =20
    -----Original Message-----
    From: April Wells [mailto:awells@csedge.com]
    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 9:02 AM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject: RE: Oracle 10


    Did find out that it will automatically download and install all =
patches and OEM will allow it to be scheduled so that you don't actually =
have to do anything.  I think the boy who demoed that said it was a =
wonderful new feature.

    April Wells=20
    Oracle DBA/Oracle Apps DBA=20
    Corporate Systems=20
    Amarillo Texas=20
    Well-behaved women rarely make history=20



    -----Original Message-----=20
    From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]=20
    Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:32 AM=20
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
    Subject: Oracle 10=20



    So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the IOUG?=20

    I wasn't there, but am curious.=20

    Patrice.=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Why?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Because Oracle tries to follow&nbsp;(stupidly) MS in =
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regards?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Igor Neyman, OCP DBA<BR><A=20
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Dkirti.deshpande@verizon.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:kirti.deshpande@verizon.com">Deshpande, Kirti</A> =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DORACLE-L@fatcity.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L@fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list =
ORACLE-L</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 05, 2003 =
12:47 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Oracle 10</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>Sure, the Oracle 'boy'&nbsp;did demo this auto patching stuff =
and it=20
  all&nbsp;looked pretty impressive..... &nbsp;One more check-mark in =
the list=20
  of things the DBAs do today, that can be taken away from them :)=20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>But&nbsp;my little brain kept wondering...... =
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>&nbsp; ..... as to why would Oracle come up with this=20
  wonderful&nbsp;feature? </FONT></SPAN><SPAN =
class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT=20
  face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Why can't they use such=20
  brilliant&nbsp;Developers to concentrate&nbsp;on thoroughly testing =
their=20
  code&nbsp;so it does not need&nbsp;a lot of patchwork. =
</FONT></SPAN><SPAN=20
  class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff =
size=3D2>Patching should=20
  be an exception, not a routine procedure that needs automation !!=20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2>BTW.. The new release&nbsp;may not be called 10i, after =
all.&nbsp;=20
  </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003></SPAN><SPAN=20
  class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff=20
  size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><SPAN class=3D594442415-05052003><FONT face=3DArial =
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>-=20
  Kirti &nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> April Wells=20
    [mailto:awells@csedge.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 05, 2003 9:02 =

    AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list =
ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE:=20
    Oracle 10<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>Did find out that it will automatically download =
and install=20
    all patches and OEM will allow it to be scheduled so that you don't =
actually=20
    have to do anything.&nbsp; I think the boy who demoed that said it =
was a=20
    wonderful new feature.</FONT></P>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>April Wells</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Oracle =
DBA/Oracle Apps=20
    DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Corporate Systems</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2>Amarillo Texas</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Well-behaved women =
rarely make=20
    history</FONT> </P><BR>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
    Boivin, Patrice J [<A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca">mailto:BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.c=
a</A>]</FONT>=20
    <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 8:32 AM</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2>Subject: Oracle 10</FONT> </P><BR>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the=20
    IOUG?</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>I wasn't there, but am curious.</FONT> </P>
    <P><FONT size=3D2>Patrice.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>-- =
</FONT><BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <A target=3D_blank=20
    href=3D"http://www.orafaq.net">http://www.orafaq.net</A></FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2>-- </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Author: Boivin, Patrice =
J</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
    size=3D2>&nbsp; INET: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca</FONT>=20
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