Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45Ijth18122 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:55 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45IjsA18117 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:45:54 -0500 Received: from fatcity.com (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id JAA73214; Mon, 5 May 2003 09:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 0058FADA; Mon, 05 May 2003 08:57:06 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 08:57:06 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Goulet, Dick" Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Goulet, Dick" Subject: RE: Oracle 10 Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jesse, You mean a new way of being ignored. Here's what I got when I accessed your link: ERROR: MetaLink Network or Page Error We're sorry but there was a problem trying to access the requested page in MetaLink. Please hit the "back" button to retry the previous operation. If you continue to get this error page, please email essrv_us@oracle.com with details of what you are doing when you receive this page. Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 12:07 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well, Oracle announced a new way of submitting enhancement requests: http://metalink.oracle.com/metalink/plsql/ml2_documents.showDocument?p_datab ase_id=NEW&p_id=307724.996 Not that it'll necessarily help, but I'd like to think that it couldn't hurt... :) Rich Rich Jesse System/Database Administrator rich.jesse@qtiworld.com Quad/Tech International, Sussex, WI USA -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:42 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I agree. Sounds like they took the MS/XP approach to keeping the OS up to date. Well, my DB is not a (home) desktop OS. Sorry, I'll apply the patches me-self. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, May 05, 2003 10:22 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L We got a preview of the new OEM during Andy Mendelsohn's talk. HTML-based, what *really* scared me is that Oracle is just NOT listening. They demo'd OEM's ability to track what patches you need to apply, go out to the net (Metalink), download the patch and apply it. Automatically. See, I don't know about anyone else, but my production database servers sit behind several firewalls. And have no direct connection to the net. Nor do we want one. Oracle has been saying "administer your database from the web" since version 8 (I had a conversation with Ken Jacobs at an NYOUG meeting back then, trying to tell him why that was a BAD thing). Then they release alerts that say that the listener is vulnerable to attack and break-in. Then they demo a product that will open a connection to the net from my protected servers. Oh yeah, I'm gonna use OEM for that feature. NOT. Rachel --- "Boivin, Patrice J" wrote: > So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the IOUG? > > I wasn't there, but am curious. > > Patrice. -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Jesse, Rich INET: Rich.Jesse@qtiworld.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Goulet, Dick INET: DGoulet@vicr.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).