Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45IkFg18160 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:46:15 -0500 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h45IkFA18155 for ; Mon, 5 May 2003 13:46:15 -0500 Received: from fatcity.com (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id JAA73242; Mon, 5 May 2003 09:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 0058F8A0; Mon, 05 May 2003 08:02:21 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 05 May 2003 08:02:21 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: Nelson Flores Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: Nelson Flores Subject: RE: Oracle 10 Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You've got to be kidding!!! A fat lot of use that is considering that the number one of Basic security Rules is to not have Internet access on the DB Machine ... Rachel, are there features other than changing the whole management system from Java to Web ? (I'm guessing OEM is Explorer 5 compatible ;) ) Nelson Flores Project Manager INTEC -----Mensaje original----- De: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100@yahoo.com] Enviado el: Lunes, 05 de Mayo de 2003 10:22 Para: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Asunto: Re: Oracle 10 We got a preview of the new OEM during Andy Mendelsohn's talk. HTML-based, what *really* scared me is that Oracle is just NOT listening. They demo'd OEM's ability to track what patches you need to apply, go out to the net (Metalink), download the patch and apply it. Automatically. See, I don't know about anyone else, but my production database servers sit behind several firewalls. And have no direct connection to the net. Nor do we want one. Oracle has been saying "administer your database from the web" since version 8 (I had a conversation with Ken Jacobs at an NYOUG meeting back then, trying to tell him why that was a BAD thing). Then they release alerts that say that the listener is vulnerable to attack and break-in. Then they demo a product that will open a connection to the net from my protected servers. Oh yeah, I'm gonna use OEM for that feature. NOT. Rachel --- "Boivin, Patrice J" wrote: > So, did you get to see Oracle 10 in action at the IOUG? > > I wasn't there, but am curious. > > Patrice. > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: Boivin, Patrice J > INET: BoivinP@mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search.yahoo.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Rachel Carmichael INET: wisernet100@yahoo.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Nelson Flores INET: nflores@intec.cl Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).