Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h34FOdV16712 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:24:39 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h34FOdg16705 for ; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 09:24:39 -0600 Received: from fatcity.com (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id EAA46483; Fri, 4 Apr 2003 04:03:39 -0800 (PST) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 0057A3C0; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 03:23:37 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 03:23:37 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: Hemant K Chitale Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: Hemant K Chitale Subject: Re: Immediate v. Abort Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There have been a number of emails on this thread a few months ago. Check the archives. Some people [including me] are comfortable with SHUTDOWN ABORT,STARTUP RESTRICT, SHUTDOWN NORMAL while others are NOT comfortable with the SHUTDOWN ABORT. It depends on your experiences with SHUTDOWN ABORT situations. I do have my production databases going down "quickly" with ABORT,RESTRICT,NORMAL. Hemant At 06:33 PM 03-04-03 -0800, you wrote: >I'm sensing a great opportunity here. It seems like the discussion is more >about what people do and don't do, instead of being a technical discussion >of what happens in a shutdown immediate v. a shutdown abort, what are the >pros and cons, what are the risks to each approach. > >I would love to see this issue addressed by the very knowledgeable in the >matters of recovery in a detailed and supported manner. I think this >approach will provide people on each side with the information they need >to make a rational decision, whether it is to stay the course or change. > >Anyone accept the challenge? I'll put up a bottle of good Scotch (no Black >Adder Raw Cask) or one of my pictures (ask Rachel) to the person who >changes my mind or reinforces my current view. > >-- >Daniel W. Fink >http://www.optimaldba.com > >IOUG-A Live! April 27 - May 1, 2003 Orlando, FL > Sunday, April 27 8:30am - 4:30pm - Problem Solving with Oracle 9i SQL > Thursday, May 1 1:00pm - 2:00pm - Automatic Undo Internals > > > >-- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >-- >Author: Daniel W. Fink > INET: optimaldba@yahoo.com > >Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com >San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may >also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). Hemant K Chitale My personal web site is : http://hkchital.tripod.com -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Hemant K Chitale INET: hkchital@singnet.com.sg Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).