Oracle-L: RE: FW: 9000x faster than Oracle?

From: Gogala, Mladen <MGogala_at_oxhp.com>
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2003 16:38:52 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.00573E4B.20030326163852@fatcity.com>

That sounds like another nice example of the fabled IBM's "paperless office",
an approach that IBM was selling in the early 80's. IBM mainframe (3084 or similar),
helped by the devices that they called "smart terminals" would allegedly eliminate
any need to use paper in the office. Those wonder terminals were having it's own
OS which was booting of a 5.25 floppy with 360k capacity and that OS was produced
by some forsaken company near Seattle, WA and the salesman even didn't remember
the company's name. I'm sure he knows the name now. And paper is stil around.
The same is true about the "object databases". There was a product called "Jasmine"
by CA, which was to become the very 1st truly OO database and, therefore, kill RDBMSes.
Add Java to the mix and you've got an old story to sell to the new suckers. Not gonna
happen. I have some stories to tell about how CA bought Ingres. Oracle recruiting buses
were circling the campus like sharks. Ingres was integrated into Jasmine and both products
sunk into oblivion. I'm sure that OODBMS written in Java will vanish into the sunset
sooner then Saddam.

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Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 6:44 PM
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This appeared on slashdot a few weeks ago.

While it advertises implementations in several languages, I believe that the only one that is actually done is Java. I didn't try it as I generally avoid
Java. :)

It sounds interesting, but it's use is somewhat limited to small systems, at
least it appears that way. Of course, there are no transactions, data integrity
or any of the other niceties that make life worth living. ;)

Jared

"Pardee, Roy E" <roy.e.pardee_at_lmco.com>
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Apropos of the 'Database Modeling- Normalization - Dinosaurs or What?' thread:
Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
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Sent: Monday, March 03, 2003 12:56 PM
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This looks interesting (from Slashdot.org):

I wonder how long it would take to roll this thing forward after a server crash...

Object Prevalence: Get Rid of Your Database?

Posted by Hemos on Monday March 03, @08:45AM from the throwing-it-out dept.
A reader writes:" Persistence for object-oriented systems is an incredibly cumbersome task
to deal with when building many kinds of applications: mapping objects to tables, XML, flat files or use some other non-OO way to represent data destroys encapsulation completely, and is generally slow, both at development and at runtime. The Object Prevalence concept, developed by the Prevayler team, and implemented in Java, C#, Smalltalk, Python, Perl, PHP, Ruby and Delphi, can be a great a solution to this mess. The concept is pretty simple:
keep all the objects in RAM and serialize the commands that change those objects, optionally saving the whole system to disk every now and then (late at night, for example). This architecture results in query speeds that many people won't believe until they see for themselves: some benchmarks point out that it's 9000 times faster than a fully-cached-in-RAM Oracle database, for example. Good thing is: they can see it for themselves. Here's an article about it, in case you want to learn more."
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Roy Pardee
Programmer/Analyst
SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT
Extension 8487

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