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Home -> Community -> Mailing Lists -> Oracle-L -> Re: why SAN ? why not external storage ?
There are many things I don't get in this life. One of them is the
statements about disk storage being an admin nightmare and way too
expensive. Aren't disks very cheap these days?!
Mogens
dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
>Rahul,
>
> This is personal opinion, but it looks to me like your concerned about the
>database your creating for the client and may not have the total or corporate
>wide view your client has. We're heading down the SAN road not because of any
>specific database requirements but because disk storage has become an
>administrative nightmare as well as way too expensive.
>
>Dick Goulet
>
>____________________Reply Separator____________________
>Author: "Arun Annamalai" <oracle_at_shakaboom.com>
>Date: 3/13/2003 12:24 PM
>
>Usaually SAN and NAS is used for several good reasons...the two main are...
>1) High availability - When you have your database files on SAN/NAS then you can
>bring ur database on another server when the primary goes down. Obviously you
>have to use a cluster or Big IP (F5) on the front.
>2) reduce redundancy -A unix userid with home directory attached to a paticular
>NFS drive on NAS/SAN, will able to see all his files when he logs into other
>servers.
>
>so far I heard "Net App" is low cost including with Raid 5.
>
>-Arun.
>Sr oracle dba
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rahul
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:38 PM
> Subject: Re: why SAN ? why not external storage ?
>
>
> my reasons to recommend an external storage was..
> 1) the database size is 36GB, and according to many documents i have read, SAN
>is not cost effevtive unless populated
> by a large numbers of drives !!, now for the client the cost is not the
>factor.. given the situation.. wouldnt a SAN be an overkill ?
>
> 2) NO DBA or SYS ADMIN skills to manage the SAN !!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tim Gorman
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:33 PM
> Subject: Re: why SAN ? why not external storage ?
>
>
> Can you share some of the reasons related to your decision in choosing a
>direct-attach storage (DAS) instead of a SAN? In general, a SAN is a much
>smarter choice than DAS.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rahul
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:33 AM
> Subject: why SAN ? why not external storage ?
>
>
> list, one of our clietns are going to by SAN, the current oracle databases
>take around
> 36GB of storage.... i dnt understand there reason to go for SAN, i
>sugguested to buy an external storage
> box instead. How can i justify my desicion ? (cost of not the factor)
>
> TIA
> rahul
>
>
>
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><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Usaually SAN and NAS is used for several good
>reasons...the two main are...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1) High availability - When you have your database
>files on SAN/NAS then you can bring ur database on another server when the
>primary goes down. Obviously you have to use a cluster or Big IP (F5) on the
>front.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2) reduce redundancy -</FONT><FONT face=Arial
>size=2>A unix userid with home directory attached to a paticular
>NFS drive on NAS/SAN, will able to see all his files when
>he logs into other servers.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>so far I heard "Net App" is low cost including with
>
>Raid 5.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-Arun.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Sr oracle dba</FONT></DIV>
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV
> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
> <A title=rahul_at_infotech.co.id href="mailto:rahul_at_infotech.co.id">Rahul</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 12, 2003 9:38
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: why SAN ? why not external
> storage ?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>my reasons to recommend an external storage
> was..</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1) the database size is 36GB, and according to
> many documents i have read, SAN is not cost effevtive unless populated
> </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>by a large numbers of drives !!, now for the
> client the cost is not the factor.. given the situation.. wouldnt a SAN be an
> overkill ? </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>2) NO DBA or SYS ADMIN skills to manage the SAN
> !! </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
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> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV
> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
>black"><B>From:</B>
> <A title=Tim_at_SageLogix.com href="mailto:Tim_at_SageLogix.com">Tim Gorman</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</A>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 12, 2003 8:33
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: why SAN ? why not external
>
> storage ?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Can you share some
> of the reasons related to your decision in choosing a
> direct-attach storage (DAS) instead of a SAN? In general, a SAN
> is a much smarter choice than DAS.</FONT></DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr
> style="PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:
>#000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
> <DIV
> style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color:
>black"><B>From:</B>
> <A title=rahul_at_infotech.co.id href="mailto:rahul_at_infotech.co.id">Rahul</A>
>
> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> href="mailto:ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list
> ORACLE-L</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:33
> AM</DIV>
> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> why SAN ? why not external
> storage ?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>list, one of our clietns are going to by SAN,
>
> the current oracle databases take around </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>36GB of storage.... i dnt understand there
> reason to go for SAN, i sugguested to buy an external storage
></FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>box instead. How can i justify my desicion ?
> (cost of not the factor) </FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>TIA</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>rahul</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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