Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1ELv3806345 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:57:03 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h1ELv3Q06340 for ; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:57:03 -0600 Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id KAA97035; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 0054DE4D; Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:39:06 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:39:06 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: Jack van Zanen Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: Jack van Zanen Subject: RE: No redo or archived log files Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is always DUL if all other options have gone south. Jack -----Original Message----- Sent: vrijdag 14 februari 2003 15:39 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well if all he really has is *current* on line files then he's dead. He needs some copy of the database that has been shutdown cleanly and so has all comitted data on disk. His current online copy presumably won't start because he can't meet that condition. With the database knowing that the current SCN is not entirely available, you are not going to get that set of files open without serious magic. Oracle support might know how but I doubt it. Allan -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 6:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Yes it is my understanding he does not have any online redo or archive logs current or backups. He just has current datafiles where the database will not start because of no online redo so I can assume those have been lost,corrupt,etc. Thanks Rick "Nelson, Allan" To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject: RE: No redo or archived log files Sent by: root@fatcity.c om 02/13/2003 04:22 PM Please respond to ORACLE-L His last cold backup of the datafiles is his only option. Without the online redologs, assuming that he lost the physical files, he will have to create a controlfile with the resetlogs option and open the database in the same mode. Is my assumption true? Was he backing up only data files and the database was in archivelog mode? Allan -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 2:10 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hi All, One of my friends has a database crash. He has no backup of online redo and archived log files. His question is How do you recover the database if all the online redologfiles and all archived files are lost ? Don't ask me why he did not have any backups or mirror online redo. Thanks Rick -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: INET: Rick_Cale@teamhealth.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ________________________________________________________________________ ______ This email is intended solely for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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