Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h09Kri130973 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:53:44 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h09Kric30968 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 14:53:44 -0600 Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id JAA31281; Thu, 9 Jan 2003 09:35:27 -0800 (PST) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 0052B590; Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:14:27 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 09 Jan 2003 09:14:27 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: Paula_Stankus@doh.state.fl.us Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: Paula_Stankus@doh.state.fl.us Subject: RE: RE : RMAN Repository Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2B802.55DB0E60" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B802.55DB0E60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I find it useful for organizing and keeping track of my backups so that during recovery it is as simple as running pre-scripted queries to see what I have available - geez am I the only one who likes RMAN and doesn't think it makes things that difficult - really? Robert Freeman - what say you? -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:25 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Gene - Which Oracle version(s)? How many instances will you be backing up? Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams@lifetouch.com -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:50 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on using RMAN. If the repository is to go away then why bother learning the intricacies of it. Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going away? It appears much simpler to setup w/out the repository. Besides reporting advantages, what are the real benefits to using a repository? Thanks, Gene PS. Now reading Robert's book. >>> jtesta@dmc-it.com 01/08/03 05:19PM >>> its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the backed up controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out of the rman backup piece(i've got a script that will do it automagically based on the filename pieces you pass it). then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then you can do normal recovery procedure. joe Jared.Still@radisys.com wrote: >And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files >are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file? > >This doesn't sound very reasonable. > >Jared > > > > > > >"Deshpande, Kirti" >Sent by: root@fatcity.com > 01/08/2003 11:44 AM > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > cc: > Subject: RE : RMAN Repository > > >Joe, > That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University >Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one would tell me when it may >happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not pursue it further. > >- Kirti > >-----Original Message----- >Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:08 PM >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > >Obilgatory oracle statement/question: rumor has it by some instructors >that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries >will be possible, truth or fiction? > >joe > > > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: Joe Testa INET: jtesta@dmc-it.com Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS INET: DWILLIAMS@LIFETOUCH.COM Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B802.55DB0E60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: RE : RMAN Repository

I find it useful for organizing and keeping track of = my backups so that during recovery it is as simple as running = pre-scripted queries to see what I have available - geez am I the only = one who likes RMAN and doesn't think it makes things that difficult - = really?  Robert Freeman - what say you?

-----Original Message-----
From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [mailto:DWILLIAMS@LIFETOUCH.COM]
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:25 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: RE : RMAN Repository


Gene - Which Oracle version(s)? How many instances = will you be backing up?



Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams@lifetouch.com

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 9:50 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on = using RMAN.  If the
repository is to go away then why bother learning = the intricacies of it.
Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going = away?  It appears much
simpler to setup w/out the repository.  Besides = reporting advantages, what
are the real benefits to using a repository?
 
Thanks,
Gene
PS. Now reading Robert's book.

>>> jtesta@dmc-it.com 01/08/03 05:19PM = >>>
its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the = backed up
controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out = of the rman backup
piece(i've got a script that will do it = automagically based on the
filename pieces you pass it).

then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then = you can do normal
recovery procedure.

joe


Jared.Still@radisys.com wrote:

>And how does one go about restoring a database = when all control files
>are lost, and the only recovery data is stored = in the control file?
>
>This doesn't sound very reasonable.
>
>Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Deshpande, Kirti" = <kirti.deshpande@verizon.com>
>Sent by: root@fatcity.com
> 01/08/2003 11:44 AM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
>
>
>        = To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L = <ORACLE-L@fatcity.com>
>        cc: =
>        = Subject:        RE : RMAN = Repository
>
>
>Joe,
> That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle = University
>Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one = would tell me when it may
>happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not = pursue it further.
>
>- Kirti
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:08 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
><snip>
>
>Obilgatory oracle statement/question:  = rumor has it by some instructors
>that RMAN repository is going away and only = control file recoveries
>will be possible, truth or fiction?
>
>joe
>
> 
>

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