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I hadn't heard that the repository was going away.  

 

I did hear, however, at the IOUG meeting last year, that the reporting
mechanisms were going to be significantly enhanced, putting it on par
with the repository-based reporting.  That came directly from one of the
Oracle RMAN strategists, if I recall correctly.

 

Brian

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Interesting thread, since I am just embarking on using RMAN.  If the
repository is to go away then why bother learning the intricacies of it.
Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository was going away?  It appears
much simpler to setup w/out the repository.  Besides reporting
advantages, what are the real benefits to using a repository?

 

Thanks,

Gene

PS. Now reading Robert's book. 

>>> jtesta@dmc-it.com 01/08/03 05:19PM >>>
its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the backed up 
controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out of the rman backup 
piece(i've got a script that will do it automagically based on the 
filename pieces you pass it).

then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then you can do normal 
recovery procedure.

joe


Jared.Still@radisys.com wrote:

>And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files
>are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file?
>
>This doesn't sound very reasonable.
>
>Jared
>
>
>
>
>
>
>"Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande@verizon.com>
>Sent by: root@fatcity.com
> 01/08/2003 11:44 AM
> Please respond to ORACLE-L
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>        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
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>        Subject:        RE : RMAN Repository
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>
>Joe,
> That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University 
>Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one would tell me when it
may 
>happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not pursue it further. 
>
>- Kirti 
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:08 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
><snip> 
>
>Obilgatory oracle statement/question:  rumor has it by some instructors

>that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries 
>will be possible, truth or fiction?
>
>joe
>
>  
>

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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I hadn&#8217;t heard that the repository
was going away.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I did hear, however, at the IOUG meeting last
year, that the reporting mechanisms were going to be significantly enhanced, putting
it on par with the repository-based reporting.&nbsp; That came directly from
one of the Oracle RMAN strategists, if I recall correctly.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Brian</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> root@fatcity.com
[mailto:root@fatcity.com] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gene
Sais<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, January 09, 2003
9:50 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Multiple recipients of list
ORACLE-L<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: RE : RMAN Repository</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Interesting thread, since I am just
embarking on using RMAN.&nbsp; If the repository is to go away then why bother
learning the intricacies of it.&nbsp; Has anyone else heard the RMAN repository
was going away?&nbsp; It appears much simpler to setup w/out the
repository.&nbsp; Besides reporting advantages, what are the real benefits to
using a repository?</span></font></p>

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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Thanks,</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Gene</span></font></p>

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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:
.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>PS.
Now reading Robert's book.&nbsp;<br>
<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; jtesta@dmc-it.com 01/08/03 05:19PM &gt;&gt;&gt;<br>
its a pain in the arse but you have to pull out the backed up <br>
controlfile(you did backup the controlfile, eh?) out of the rman backup <br>
piece(i've got a script that will do it automagically based on the <br>
filename pieces you pass it).<br>
<br>
then once the backed up controlfile is restored, then you can do normal <br>
recovery procedure.<br>
<br>
joe<br>
<br>
<br>
Jared.Still@radisys.com wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;And how does one go about restoring a database when all control files<br>
&gt;are lost, and the only recovery data is stored in the control file?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;This doesn't sound very reasonable.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Jared<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&quot;Deshpande, Kirti&quot; &lt;kirti.deshpande@verizon.com&gt;<br>
&gt;Sent by: root@fatcity.com<br>
&gt; 01/08/2003 11:44 AM<br>
&gt; Please respond to ORACLE-L<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L &lt;ORACLE-L@fatcity.com&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; cc: <br>
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE : RMAN Repository<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Joe,<br>
&gt; That's what I have heard (from 2 Oracle University <br>
&gt;Professors/Lecturers/Demonstrators). But no one would tell me when it may <br>
&gt;happen. We do not use RMAN (yet) so I did not pursue it further. <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;- Kirti <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;-----Original Message-----<br>
&gt;Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 1:08 PM<br>
&gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&lt;snip&gt; <br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;Obilgatory oracle statement/question:&nbsp; rumor has it by some
instructors <br>
&gt;that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries <br>
&gt;will be possible, truth or fiction?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;joe<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;&nbsp; <br>
&gt;<br>
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