Return-Path: Received: from ensim.rackshack.net (root@localhost) by orafaq.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08JGqL14010 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:16:52 -0600 X-ClientAddr: 209.68.248.164 Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by ensim.rackshack.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h08JGqc14003 for ; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 13:16:52 -0600 Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id HAA95910; Wed, 8 Jan 2003 07:08:10 -0800 (PST) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 00529C8A; Wed, 08 Jan 2003 05:39:14 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 08 Jan 2003 05:39:14 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Deshpande, Kirti" Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Deshpande, Kirti" Subject: RE: FW: IOUG-A Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C2B71A.D072BDEA" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C2B71A.D072BDEA Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable You might check with Gaja to get "Buffer Ca$h Hit Ratio" displayed in = the tool he is working on..... Oracle can always issue a "bug fix" to = whoever complains... ;)=20 =20 - Kirti =20 -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:46 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Undskyld, undskyld, undskyld. I'm just not familiar with other cultures. = So let me get this straight: A high CASH hit ratio is obtained by = drinking more or spending less? At the moment I'm having a Maker's Mark, = which has a fine Glass Hit Ratio, by the way. Man, it would be cool to have a tool that displayed the useless BCHR as = "Buffer Ca$h Hit Ratio" and explained that focusing on this stuff would = only optimize consulting revenue :-))) Yep, Black Adder is a thing to watch out for. Tastes fantastic. Mogens Mogens Fink, Dan wrote: Mogens, Mogens, Mogens... It's not about hit ratios! It's about how many bars the group has to = visit! Reduce the number of bars and you reduce the time it takes! = Remember, a High Hit Ratio but Slow Beer Consumption will make people = very unhappy! =20 Dan "Just say no to Black Adder scotch" Fink -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:59 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L And I hereby declare that Miracle will sponsor a beer for each = participant. Since I can't be there, I can at least make it easier to = live with Jonathan for a whole day. Jonathan - buy those poor people a beer (or whatever they require) and = send the bill to Miracle. PS: This was only for those participating in Jonathans (possible) = seminar - not for all participants in IOUG-A. In other words: I'm going = for a very high (local) hit ratio. Not a high global hit ratio. Mogens Stephen Andert wrote: I too will attend that class, even if I can't get my boss to spring for it. They are sending me there, but they don't have to pay for the conference, so I should be able to talk them into it. Stephen Andert =20 Lisa.Koivu@efairfield.com 01/06/03 12:14PM >>> =20 Jonathan, if you do decide to give that class, I am definately interested. $250 I can talk my boss into. $1300 for IOUG-A, I can't. =20 (Ah, the joys of working for a non-IT-centric company.)=20 Lisa Koivu Oracle Database Administrator Fairfield Resorts, Inc. 5259 Coconut Creek Parkway Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA 33063 -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:18 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If you make the reservation, I will send you the money. All credit cards are maxed, not from Christmas but ... Ruth ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" = Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:39 PM =20 Grosvernor might be a good place. Don't know the price... but it is =20 close =20 (right next to Downtown Disney, and is a very nice Resort Hotel)=20 =20 Cheaper =20 than the Swan and Dolphin... but very nice. 1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd. Lake Buena Vista, Florida 32830 Reservations: 1.800.624.4109 April Wells Oracle DBA Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from =20 mediocre minds =20 -- Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:14 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I've finally managed to fit IOUG-A into my timetable, after years of thinking that I really ought to go some day. I see from the 'University Class' listings that no-one is doing anything about specific on how the cost based optimizer works. Two questions - If I found some place in the locale to run the one-day tutorial that I did at the UKOUG this December (see URL below), would there be much interest in attending ? I'd probably keep the class size at around 40 people, with a cost of around $250, and plan to run it on the Sunday before the main event. (Or maybe on the Friday, when all the fuss has died down). Second - does anyone know the general area well enough to suggest a couple of reasonable hotels that might do a nice job of hosting such an event ? Thanks for any feedback. Regards Jonathan Lewis http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk=20 Coming soon a new one-day tutorial: Cost Based Optimisation (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/tutorial.html ) Next Seminar dates: (see http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html ) ____England______January 21/23 ____USA_(CA, TX)_August The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html=20 -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net=20 -- Author: Jonathan Lewis INET: jonathan@jlcomp.demon.co.uk=20 Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com=20 San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting =20 services =20 --------------------------------------------------------------------- =20 To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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-----Original Message-----
From: Mogens N=F8rgaard=20 [mailto:mln@miracleas.dk]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 6:46 = PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: = Re: FW:=20 IOUG-A

Undskyld, undskyld, undskyld. I'm just not = familiar=20 with other cultures. So let me get this straight: A high CASH hit ratio = is=20 obtained by drinking more or spending less? At the moment I'm having a = Maker's=20 Mark, which has a fine Glass Hit Ratio, by the way.

Man, it would = be cool=20 to have a tool that displayed the useless BCHR as "Buffer Ca$h Hit = Ratio" and=20 explained that focusing on this stuff would only optimize consulting = revenue=20 :-)))

Yep, Black Adder is a thing to watch out for. Tastes=20 fantastic.

Mogens

Mogens

Fink, Dan wrote:
Mogens, Mogens, Mogens...
    It's not about hit ratios! It's about how = many bars the=20 group has to visit! Reduce the number of bars and you reduce the time = it=20 takes! Remember, a High Hit Ratio but Slow Beer Consumption will make = people=20 very unhappy!
 
Dan=20 "Just say no to Black Adder scotch" Fink
-----Original Message-----
From: Mogens = N=F8rgaard [mailto:mln@miracleas.dk]
Sent:= =20 Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:59 PM
To: Multiple recipients = of list=20 ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: FW: IOUG-A

And I = hereby=20 declare that Miracle will sponsor a beer for each participant. Since = I can't=20 be there, I can at least make it easier to live with Jonathan for a = whole=20 day.

Jonathan - buy those poor people a beer (or whatever = they=20 require) and send the bill to Miracle.

PS: This was only for = those=20 participating in Jonathans (possible) seminar - not for all = participants in=20 IOUG-A. In other words: I'm going for a very high (local) hit ratio. = Not a=20 high global hit ratio.

Mogens

Stephen Andert = wrote:
I too will attend that class, even if I =
can't get my boss to spring for
it.  They are sending me there, but they don't have to pay for the
conference, so I should be able to talk them into it.

Stephen Andert

  
Lisa.Koivu@efairfield.com =
01/06/03 12:14PM >>>
        
Jonathan, if you do decide to give that class, I am =
definately
interested.
$250 I can talk my boss into.  $1300 for IOUG-A, I can't. =20

(Ah, the joys of working for a non-IT-centric company.)=20

Lisa Koivu
Oracle Database Administrator
Fairfield Resorts, Inc.
5259 Coconut Creek Parkway
Ft. Lauderdale, FL, USA  33063



-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 1:18 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


If you make the reservation, I will send you the money.  All credit
cards
are maxed, not from Christmas but ...

Ruth
----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <ORACLE-L@fatcity.com>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:39 PM


  
Grosvernor might be a =
good place.  Don't know the price... but it is
    
close
  
(right next to Downtown =
Disney, and is a very nice Resort Hotel)=20
    
Cheaper
  
than the Swan and =
Dolphin... but very nice.

1850 Hotel Plaza Blvd.
Lake Buena Vista, Florida 32830
Reservations: 1.800.624.4109

April Wells
Oracle DBA
Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from
    
mediocre
minds
  
-- Albert Einstein



-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 4:14 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L




I've finally managed to fit IOUG-A into my
timetable, after years of thinking that I really
ought to go some day.

I see from the 'University Class' listings that
no-one is doing anything about specific on
how the cost based optimizer works.

Two questions -
If I found some place in the locale to
run the one-day tutorial that I did at the
UKOUG this December (see URL below),
would there be much interest in attending ?
I'd probably keep the class size at around
40 people, with a cost of around $250, and
plan to run it on the Sunday before the main
event. (Or maybe on the Friday, when all
the fuss has died down).

Second - does anyone know the general
area well enough to suggest a couple of
reasonable hotels that might do a nice
job of hosting such an event ?


Thanks for any feedback.


Regards

Jonathan Lewis
http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk =


Coming soon a new one-day tutorial:
Cost Based Optimisation
(see http://www.jlcomp.de=
mon.co.uk/tutorial.html )

Next Seminar dates:
(see http://www.jlcomp.dem=
on.co.uk/seminar.html )

____England______January 21/23
____USA_(CA, TX)_August


The Co-operative Oracle Users' FAQ
http://www.jlcomp=
.demon.co.uk/faq/ind_faq.html=20





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