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MessageRichard,

I have here versions 8.1.5 and 9.2.
Both show allocation type "UNIFORM" for LMTs with uniform extent size =
(except LM SYSTEM and UNDO tablespaces in 9.2 , for which "SYSTEM" =
allocation type is shown), and allocation type "USER" for dictionary =
managed tablespaces.

Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
ineyman@perceptron.com
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Markham, Richard=20
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
  Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 2:09 PM
  Subject: RE: alert log suppression


  Thanks for the info Igor.  In addition to this I am curious of how to =
determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM.  dba_tablespaces shows =
allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM TS.  TIA
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Igor Neyman [mailto:ineyman@perceptron.com]=20
    Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:30 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject: Re: alert log suppression


    Richard,

    If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is usually the best option), =
you don't need to do any coalescing on LMTs.

    Igor Neyman, OCP DBA
    ineyman@perceptron.com
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      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Markham, Richard=20
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
      Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 1:00 PM
      Subject: RE: alert log suppression


      ok.  They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE 0.  I'm running 8.1.7.4 and=20
      I believe that SMON requires PCTINCREASE > 0 to do routine=20
      coalescing.........perhaps you have further to add to your post.=20



      -----Original Message-----=20
      From: Connor McDonald [mailto:hamcdc@yahoo.co.uk]=20
      Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 PM=20
      To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
      Subject: Re: alert log suppression=20



      The obvious question being why you are coalescing tablespaces....=20

       --- "Markham, Richard" <RMarkham@hafeleamericas.com>=20
      wrote: > Is it possible to suppress successful DDL=20
      within the=20
      > alter log?=20
      > For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ tablespaces=20
      > which creates a couple line entry for each.  I would=20
      > like to=20
      > get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed.=20
      >=20
      > TIA=20
      > =20

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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have here versions 8.1.5 and 9.2.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Both show allocation type "UNIFORM" for LMTs with =
uniform=20
extent size (except&nbsp;LM SYSTEM and UNDO tablespaces in 9.2 , for =
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dictionary=20
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2:09=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: alert log =
suppression</DIV>
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  size=3D2>Thanks for the info Igor.&nbsp; In addition to this&nbsp;I am =
curious=20
  of how to determine that a given TS's extents are UNIFORM.&nbsp;=20
  dba_tablespaces shows allocation_type of user for a known UNIFORM =
TS.&nbsp;=20
  TIA</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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    face=3DTahoma size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> =
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    [mailto:ineyman@perceptron.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December =
16, 2002=20
    1:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list=20
    ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: alert log =
suppression<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>Richard,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2>If you are using UNIFORM extents (which is =
usually the=20
    best option),&nbsp;you don't need to do any coalescing on =
LMTs.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV>Igor Neyman, OCP DBA<BR><A=20
    =
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p;=20
    </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3DRMarkham@hafeleamericas.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:RMarkham@hafeleamericas.com">Markham, Richard</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DORACLE-L@fatcity.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L@fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list=20
      ORACLE-L</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 16, =
2002 1:00=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: alert log=20
      suppression</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>ok.&nbsp; They are LMT's with PCTINCREASE =
0.&nbsp; I'm=20
      running 8.1.7.4 and </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>I believe that SMON =
requires=20
      PCTINCREASE &gt; 0 to do routine </FONT><BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>coalescing.........perhaps you have further to add to =
your=20
      post.</FONT> </P><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
      Connor McDonald [<A=20
      href=3D"mailto:hamcdc@yahoo.co.uk">mailto:hamcdc@yahoo.co.uk</A>]=20
      </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 12:00 =
PM</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>Subject: Re: alert log suppression</FONT> </P><BR>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>The obvious question being why you are =
coalescing=20
      tablespaces....</FONT> </P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>&nbsp;--- "Markham, Richard"=20
      &lt;RMarkham@hafeleamericas.com&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>wrote: &gt; Is=20
      it possible to suppress successful DDL</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>within=20
      the</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; alter log?</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      For example, I have a cron job that coalesces 300+ =
tablespaces</FONT>=20
      <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; which creates a couple line entry for =
each.&nbsp; I=20
      would</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; like to</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;=20
      get feedback only if the DDL has actually failed.</FONT> <BR><FONT =

      size=3D2>&gt; </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; TIA</FONT> <BR><FONT=20
      size=3D2>&gt;&nbsp; </FONT></P>
      <P><FONT size=3D2>=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Connor =
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