Return-Path: Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by naude.co.za (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g7UJVjZ18038 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 15:31:45 -0400 Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id KAA56748; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:25:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b72/bab) via UUCP id 004C43B5; Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:03:26 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2002 10:03:26 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Seefelt, Beth" Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Seefelt, Beth" Subject: RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 72; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by naude.co.za id g7UJVjZ18038 The same way Digital did. The best product doesn't always win... -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 12:19 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only one). How the hell did they lose market share? ltiu On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote: > found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not > mistaken, too... > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here > > such lovely choices we have > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" wrote: > > My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. > > The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes. > > > > Tom Mercadante > > Oracle Certified Professional > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because > > they > > are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider > > the > > alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using > > M$ > > products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest > > alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my > > home > > machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be > > used in > > my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea > > of > > getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of > > my > > current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that > > I have > > not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too > > busy or > > too lazy to write one 8-) > > > > To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people > > choose > > to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't. > > > > Kevin Kennedy > > First Point Energy Corporation > > > > If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products > > are > > doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the > > right > > choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they > > can > > make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult > > choice > > and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept > > whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a > > viable > > alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). > > In > > the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have > > been finding that more difficult lately. > > > > Kevin Kennedy > > First Point Energy Corporation > > > > If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean? > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice! > > > > Tom Mercadante > > Oracle Certified Professional > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses. > > > > johanna.doran@sungard.com wrote: > > >Got trigger happy, so I'm resending. > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM > > >To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail) > > > > > > > > >Hi, > > > > > > I recieved an email today as follows: > > > > > >Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL > > > > @SUNGARD > > > > >Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL > > > > @SUNGARD > > > > >Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox > > >Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany > > >One or more attachments were deleted > > >Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons: > > >Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found. > > > > > > > > >Here is the repsonse from my guys: > > > > > >It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg. > > > > diamonddata.com > > and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first > > email. > > It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to > > you, > > in > > which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked > > on > > it's > > way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible > > of > > virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the > > scan > > anyway. See what they can find. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: ltiu > > INET: ltiu@alumni.sfu.ca > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing > > Lists > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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