RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

The universe exists according to our beliefs. If you believe that you have no choice, then you have no choice. But only because you believe it.

Happy Friday,
Mark "There is no spoon" Stahlke
Denver Newspaper Agency

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Sent:	Friday, August 30, 2002 7:58 AM
To:	Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:	RE: LIST ADMIN: VIRUS Warning: Please Repsond

My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice. The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because they are stupid or lazy. Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider the alternatives. I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using M$ products both at home and at work. I don't like them. I suggest alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity. For my home machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be used in my home -- they are just too damn invasive. I'm toying with the idea of getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of my current machines. The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that I have not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too busy or too lazy to write one 8-)

To restate what I said before: You always have a choice. Some people choose to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice. I don't.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean?

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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products are doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?

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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

You always have a choice. Sometimes it is difficult to make the right choice. Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they can make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult choice and work harder. In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept whatever M$ does and produces. The difficult choice is to find a viable alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). In the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have been finding that more difficult lately.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean?

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Gee, that's a helpful reply! As if we have any choice!

Tom Mercadante
Oracle Certified Professional

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Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.

johanna.doran_at_sungard.com wrote:

>Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
>To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)
>
>
>Hi,
>
> I recieved an email today as follows:
>
>Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
<NAVMSE-DDS_MAIL_at_diamonddata.com>@SUNGARD
>Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
<NAVMSE-DDS_MAIL_at_diamonddata.com>@SUNGARD
>
>Recipient of the infected attachment: Kelly Grigg\Inbox
>Subject of the message: Happy humour Epiphany
>One or more attachments were deleted
>Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
>Virus W32.Klez.E_at_mm was found.
>
>
>Here is the repsonse from my guys:
>
>It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
diamonddata.com
and lazydba.com to you. I attached the description from your first email.
It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to you, in
which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked on it's
way out from their systems. Have you contact them about the possible of virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the scan anyway. See what they can find.
>
>
>
>
>

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