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oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here

such lovely choices we have


--- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <NDATFM@labor.state.ny.us> wrote:
> My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.  
> The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because
> they
> are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider
> the
> alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using
> M$
> products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
> alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my
> home
> machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be
> used in
> my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea
> of
> getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of
> my
> current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that
> I have
> not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too
> busy or
> too lazy to write one 8-)
> 
> To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people
> choose
> to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.
> 
> Kevin Kennedy
> First Point Energy Corporation
> 
> If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> 
> So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products
> are
> doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the
> right
> choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they
> can
> make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult
> choice
> and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
> whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a
> viable
> alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management). 
> In
> the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
> been finding that more difficult lately.
> 
> Kevin Kennedy
> First Point Energy Corporation
> 
> If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!
> 
> Tom Mercadante
> Oracle Certified Professional
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.
> 
> johanna.doran@sungard.com wrote:
> 
> >Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
> >To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)
> >
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >	I recieved an email today as follows:
> >
> >Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
> <NAVMSE-DDS_MAIL@diamonddata.com>@SUNGARD
> >Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
> <NAVMSE-DDS_MAIL@diamonddata.com>@SUNGARD
> >
> >Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
> >Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
> >One or more attachments were deleted
> >Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
> >Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.
> >
> >
> >Here is the repsonse from my guys:
> >
> >It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
> diamonddata.com
> and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
> email.
> It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to
> you,
> in
> which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked
> on
> it's
> way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible
> of
> virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the
> scan
> anyway. See what they can find.
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
> 
> 
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