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RE: Slightly OT: Rounding Negative Numbers

From: Jack van Zanen <nlzanen1_at_EY.NL>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2002 23:33:24 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004C3B33.20020829233324@fatcity.com>


Hi

if you include -0.870, you should also include -0.880 in which case the split will go 6:5 either way you choose.

Jack

                                                                                                                                       
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I have to jump in at this point since the arguments for rounding -0.875 to
-0.87 just don't seem quite right (I guess I might be Gaussian about this
thing). Let me use a different approach to this argument:

Value Rounded
-0.870 -0.87
-0.871 -0.87
-0.872 -0.87
-0.873 -0.87
-0.874 -0.87
-0.875 ?
-0.876 -0.88
-0.877 -0.88
-0.878 -0.88
-0.879 -0.88

Let's look at the distribution. If -0.875 rounds to -0.87 then 60% of the values round to -0.87 and 40% round to -0.88. But, if -0.875 rounds to
-0.88 then 50% of the values round each way. A 50/50 split is much more
pleasing to my mind than a 60/40 split.

In my opinion, the Java example gave the wrong answer. I have to wonder if the expression (a*100) got cast into an integer before being handed to the round class. The alternative of questioning the validity of the class is less appealing.

Kevin Kennedy
First Point Energy Corporation

If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE! What can this mean?

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After an intense "ask-your-local-mathematician"-session, here you go:

It depends ;) (That's typical math-guys, isn't it ?). If you define "round" according to the Gauss function, then it should calculate it using absolute values, that would be -0.88. On the other hand, "round" is usually defined to go for the higher value from 5 on, so, since -0.87 is "higher" than
-0.875, -0.87 would be correct.

You actually don't know wether the function is implemented one or the other way. You can just try. And if you are not content with the results, you have
to cook your own.

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Von: Bill Buchan [mailto:wbuchan_at_uk.intasys.com] Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. August 2002 12:43 An: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Betreff: Re: Slightly OT: Rounding Negative Numbers

I know the rule "round up", but does "up" mean the highest value (-0.87) or

the highest absolute magnitude (-0.88)? :)

At 09:53 28/08/2002 -0800, you wrote:

>I would think -0.875 would round up therefore -0.87 is my guess.
>
>Rick
>

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