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Re:RE: missed Anjo's webcast..

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Aug 2002 10:23:36 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004AF6B4.20020808102336@fatcity.com>


Paul & Barb,

    To assume that Anjo, or any other person on the list, is infallible is wrong. We are all human beings who on occasion make mistakes and/or misstatements. If that were not true I'd not be the gopher I am, but a GOD.

    I also agree with Anjo, Buffer cache hit ratio's don't matter. If they did we'd never need disk drives as everything would be in memory. Our databases would also be a whole lot smaller and useless.

Dick Goulet

Now, If you'll allow me back into my hole!

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Author: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us
Date:       8/8/2002 9:58 AM

BTW, I was really depressed about not hearing the webcast and think that is why I even had the dream.

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:53 PM To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'

I honestly did not mean to imply that Anjo was wrong. I truly think he is a guru in the field and have been reading his work for many years now. I don't even put myself in his category to be able to critisize him. I am so sorry if that was what my message came across as. I just wanted to relay it to you because I really had the dream and thought it was funny. Please I am so sorry for offending anyone. Especially anyone of the caliber of Anjo. In fact, if I ever saw him in person I would get down on my knees and say "I'm not worthy...I'm not worthy..."

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:49 PM To: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us

Paula:
Had you listened to the webcast, you would have earned the right to criticize it. Anjo did NOT say that db_block_buffers do not matter. (I did listen to the webcast.)

Anjo has contributed greatly to the oracle-l list on several occasions. To imply on the list that he was not correct was rather insensitive, especially since you were mistaken in your assertions.

Barb

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> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: missed Anjo's webcast..
>
> Guys,
>
> I had this dream that I missed the webcast - which I did. However,
> someone said it wasn't very interesting but the conversation of the people
> (gurus) left over was very interesting as there was good solid evidence
> that he was incorrect and db_block_buffers do matter. Kind of inline with
> the discussion about redos yesterday and my indexing/partition issues -
> hmmm.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mladen Gogala [ mailto:mgogala_at_adelphia.net]
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:38 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: missed Anjo's webcast..
>
>
> Www.precise.com, go to Events->webcasts...
> On 2002.08.08 00:53 Madhusudhanan Sampath wrote:
> > Are transcript documents available anywhere?
> >
> > Regards
> > Madhusudhanan S
> >
> >
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>BTW, I was really depressed about not hearing the webcast and think that is why I even had the dream.&nbsp; </FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Stankus, Paula G </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:53 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: 'ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com'</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: RE: missed Anjo's webcast..</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>I honestly did not mean to imply that Anjo was wrong.&nbsp; I truly think he is a guru in the field and have been reading his work for many years now.&nbsp; I don't even put myself in his category to be able to critisize him.&nbsp; I am so sorry if that was what my message came across as.&nbsp; I just wanted to relay it to you because I really had the dream and thought it was funny.&nbsp; Please I am so sorry for offending anyone.&nbsp; Especially anyone of the caliber of Anjo. In fact, if I ever saw him in person I would get down on my knees and say &quot;I'm not worthy...I'm not worthy...&quot;</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>From: Baker, Barbara [<A HREF="mailto:bbaker_at_denvernewspaperagency.com">mailto:bbaker_at_denvernewspaperagen cy.com</A>]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:49 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>To: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Subject: FW: missed Anjo's webcast..</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Paula:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Had you listened to the webcast, you would have earned the right to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>criticize it.&nbsp; Anjo did NOT say that db_block_buffers do not matter.&nbsp; (I did</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>listen to the webcast.)</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Anjo has contributed greatly to the oracle-l list on several occasions.&nbsp; To</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>imply on the list that he was not correct was rather insensitive, especially</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>since you were mistaken in your assertions.</FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>Barb</FONT>
</P>
<BR>

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Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us[SMTP:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Reply To: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thursday, August 08, 2002 9:43 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: &nbsp; Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: missed Anjo's webcast..</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Guys, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I had this dream that I missed the webcast - which I
did.&nbsp; However,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; someone said it wasn't very interesting but the conversation of the people</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; (gurus) left over was very interesting as there was good solid evidence</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; that he was incorrect and db_block_buffers do matter.&nbsp; Kind of inline with</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; the discussion about redos yesterday and my indexing/partition issues -</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; hmmm.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message----- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: Mladen Gogala [ <A
HREF="mailto:mgogala_at_adelphia.net">mailto:mgogala_at_adelphia.net</A>] </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:38 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: Re: missed Anjo's webcast.. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Www.precise.com, go to Events-&gt;webcasts... </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; On 2002.08.08 00:53 Madhusudhanan Sampath wrote: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Are transcript documents available anywhere? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Regards </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; Madhusudhanan S </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
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