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I honestly did not mean to imply that Anjo was wrong.  I truly think he is a
guru in the field and have been reading his work for many years now.  I
don't even put myself in his category to be able to critisize him.  I am so
sorry if that was what my message came across as.  I just wanted to relay it
to you because I really had the dream and thought it was funny.  Please I am
so sorry for offending anyone.  Especially anyone of the caliber of Anjo. In
fact, if I ever saw him in person I would get down on my knees and say "I'm
not worthy...I'm not worthy..."

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:49 PM
To: Paula_Stankus@doh.state.fl.us


Paula:
Had you listened to the webcast, you would have earned the right to
criticize it.  Anjo did NOT say that db_block_buffers do not matter.  (I did
listen to the webcast.)

Anjo has contributed greatly to the oracle-l list on several occasions.  To
imply on the list that he was not correct was rather insensitive, especially
since you were mistaken in your assertions.

Barb


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> 
> Guys, 
> 
> I had this dream that I missed the webcast - which I did.  However,
> someone said it wasn't very interesting but the conversation of the people
> (gurus) left over was very interesting as there was good solid evidence
> that he was incorrect and db_block_buffers do matter.  Kind of inline with
> the discussion about redos yesterday and my indexing/partition issues -
> hmmm.
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Mladen Gogala [ mailto:mgogala@adelphia.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:38 AM 
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L 
> Subject: Re: missed Anjo's webcast.. 
> 
> 
> Www.precise.com, go to Events->webcasts... 
> On 2002.08.08 00:53 Madhusudhanan Sampath wrote: 
> > Are transcript documents available anywhere? 
> > 
> > Regards 
> > Madhusudhanan S 
> > 
> > 
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>I honestly did not mean to imply that Anjo was =
wrong.&nbsp; I truly think he is a guru in the field and have been =
reading his work for many years now.&nbsp; I don't even put myself in =
his category to be able to critisize him.&nbsp; I am so sorry if that =
was what my message came across as.&nbsp; I just wanted to relay it to =
you because I really had the dream and thought it was funny.&nbsp; =
Please I am so sorry for offending anyone.&nbsp; Especially anyone of =
the caliber of Anjo. In fact, if I ever saw him in person I would get =
down on my knees and say &quot;I'm not worthy...I'm not =
worthy...&quot;</FONT></P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>From: Baker, Barbara [<A =
HREF=3D"mailto:bbaker@denvernewspaperagency.com">mailto:bbaker@denvernew=
spaperagency.com</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:49 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>To: Paula_Stankus@doh.state.fl.us</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Subject: FW: missed Anjo's webcast..</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Paula:</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>Had you listened to the webcast, you would have =
earned the right to</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>criticize it.&nbsp; Anjo did NOT say that =
db_block_buffers do not matter.&nbsp; (I did</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>listen to the webcast.)</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Anjo has contributed greatly to the oracle-l list on =
several occasions.&nbsp; To</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>imply on the list that he was not correct was rather =
insensitive, especially</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>since you were mistaken in your assertions.</FONT>
</P>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>Barb</FONT>
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<BR>

<P><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; ----------</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From:</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Reply To: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RE: missed =
Anjo's webcast..</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Guys, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; I had this dream that I missed the webcast - =
which I did.&nbsp; However,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; someone said it wasn't very interesting but the =
conversation of the people</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; (gurus) left over was very interesting as there =
was good solid evidence</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; that he was incorrect and db_block_buffers do =
matter.&nbsp; Kind of inline with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; the discussion about redos yesterday and my =
indexing/partition issues -</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; hmmm.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; -----Original Message----- </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; From: Mladen Gogala [ <A =
HREF=3D"mailto:mgogala@adelphia.net">mailto:mgogala@adelphia.net</A>] =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:38 AM </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Subject: Re: missed Anjo's webcast.. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; Www.precise.com, go to Events-&gt;webcasts... =
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; On 2002.08.08 00:53 Madhusudhanan Sampath =
wrote: </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Are transcript documents available =
anywhere? </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Regards </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; Madhusudhanan S </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=3D2>&gt; &gt; </FONT>
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