RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22

I just like that 'dream' of 'no dba required' ;) 'cause I have heard enough presenters mention it... the new self tuning 9i, the new 'everything dynamic' 9i and such......

• Kirti

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> From: Jared.Still_at_radisys.com [SMTP:Jared.Still_at_radisys.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 3:14 PM
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> Subject: RE: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22
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> > SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal of 'no
> dba
> > required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'.
>
> I really don't think the DBA will ever be eliminated.
>
> This kind of thing just gives us more time to spend on other aspects
> of the database.
>
> Just consider how much database/computer savvy is needed
> to make runInstaller work. :)
>
> Jared
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> "Deshpande, Kirti" <kirti.deshpande_at_verizon.com>
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> I would get the DB to function the way I want first using init.ora. Then
> switch to SPFILE from init.ora, while preserving a copy of working
> init.ora
> file.
>
> Also, when a parameter is changed dynamically with SCOPE=both or spfile, I
> recreate my init.ora file as the backup.
>
> SPFILE concept is good and it is required for reaching the goal of 'no dba
> required', but it is still far from being 'ready for prime time'.
>
> I stopped using SPFILE with a couple of my databases when I was able to
> add
> db_cache_size to an spfile that already had db_block_buffers (two mutually
> exclusive parameters). The next restart of the DB failed. It was good that
>
> I
> had kept the init.ora file. I have not installed 9.2 yet, so I do now know
> if such things are verified beforehand and prevented.
>
> HTH,
>
> - Kirti
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DENNIS WILLIAMS [SMTP:DWILLIAMS_at_LIFETOUCH.COM]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 12:49 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject: Oracle 9.2 spfile catch 22
> >
> > Thanks to everyone for the ideas on the init.ora. You were correct that
> > the
> > answer is indeed with spfile. Now I have discovered a catch-22.
> >
> > Oracle 9.2, Solaris
> >
> > 1. If spfile is created with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = true,
> > database will not start. Receive the error
> > ORA-00439 feature not enabled: Managed Standby
> > 2. Creating the spfile with LOG_ARCHIVE_START = false works and the
> > database
> > starts. Issuing
> > ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG START
> > works, but it isn't changed in the spfile, so the next time Oracle is
> > bounced, the archiver doesn't start.
> >
> > This is starting to smell like a bug, but I thought I'd run it past the
> > list
> > on the off-chance someone else has gotten archiving turned on for 9.2.
> > Thanks.
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