Return-Path: Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by naude.co.za (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5S3UVf32683 for ; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 23:30:31 -0400 Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id MAA29048; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:26:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b71/bab) via UUCP id 0048ADAB; Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:17:27 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2002 12:17:27 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: "Farnsworth, Dave" Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: "Farnsworth, Dave" Subject: RE: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in Dayton, Ohio.. Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 71; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C21E0F.125F0B40" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C21E0F.125F0B40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Uncle Larry is watching you. -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:55 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L If your background is clean these clearances should be no big deal. = When I was driving submarines for a living I had TS, Crypto and = COMSUBPAC Special Intelligence clearances. SI is above TS. =20 Ken Janusz, CPIM Former U.S.N. Submariner ----- Original Message -----=20 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20 Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:30 PM Another certification! -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 3:15 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Very good question! I've wondered the same thing myself! Michael Cupp wrote: How would one begin the process of getting one? Or does it have to be = government sponsored? -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5 to 2 years to get = this clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it = behooves you to keep it current. They used to estimate these clearences were worth an additional $10K a year for salary. Im thinking at least $25K now. Alot of my friends that have these clearances , whether they be DBAs, programmers, Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many places around the world due to the fact these clearances are very hard to get. Also, the companies will not foot the bill for this delay. The government usually has to approve all hires where the individual is not cleared. From what I have seen the government is in no mood to do this as of late. FWIW ! Mike -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I don't understand the large number of positions coming out that require = a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance. How can all these positions=20 be filled unless these company/entities start footing the bill for=20 people getting the clearances?!? Johnson, Michael wrote: =20 That is not my understanding. FWIW. Mike -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:35 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets can admit to doing=20 so :) One can say you have been the subject of a Special Backgroud=20 Investigation, and Extensive Background Investigation, a Full Field=20 Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of 100 these investigations=20 are done for just such access. Ian MacGregor Stanford Linear Accelerator Center ian@SLAC.Sranford.edu -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I suspect that this position will be at Wright-Patterson Air Force=20 base. OraStaff wrote: =20 =20 Position: Oracle DBA with Top Secret SCI Clearance (Please do not send your resume unless you have the required =20 =20 =20 --=20 Jesse W. Asher "They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty or safety." - Benjamin Franklin ------_=_NextPart_001_01C21E0F.125F0B40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Uncle=20 Larry is watching you.
-----Original Message-----
From: KENNETH JANUSZ=20 [mailto:kjanusz@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:55=20 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list = ORACLE-L
Subject: Re:=20 Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance Needed in Dayton, = Ohio..

If your background is clean these clearances = should be no=20 big deal.  When I was driving submarines for a living I had TS, = Crypto=20 and COMSUBPAC Special Intelligence clearances.  SI is above=20 TS.
 
Ken Janusz, CPIM
Former U.S.N. Submariner
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Khedr,=20 Waleed
To: Multiple=20 recipients of list ORACLE-L
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 = 2:30=20 PM
Subject: RE: Oracle DBA with = TS SCI=20 Clearance Needed in Dayton, Ohio..

Another=20 certification!
-----Original Message-----
From: Jesse W. Asher = [mailto:jasher1@tampabay.rr.com]
Sent: Thursday, June = 27, 2002=20 3:15 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list=20 ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Oracle DBA with TS SCI Clearance = Needed in=20 Dayton, Ohio..


Very good question! =  I've=20 wondered the same thing myself!

Michael Cupp wrote:
How =
would one begin the process of getting one?  Or does it have to be =
government sponsored?

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 2:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


It is my understanding that it currently takes 1.5 to 2 years to get =
this clearence mainly due to events of 9/11. So, if you have one, it =
behooves you to keep it current.

They used to estimate these clearences were worth
an additional $10K a year for salary.   Im thinking
at least $25K now.    Alot of  my friends that have
these clearances , whether they be DBAs, programmers,
Sys. Ads. etc, have standing offers for work in many
places around the world due to the fact these clearances
are very hard to get.

Also,  the companies will not foot the bill for this
delay.  The government usually has to approve all hires
where the individual is not cleared.  From what I have
seen the government is in no mood to do this as of
late.

FWIW !

Mike

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:54 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L



I don't understand the large number of positions coming out that require =

a CURRENT Secret or Top Secret clearance.  How can all these positions=20
be filled unless these company/entities start footing the bill for=20
people getting the clearances?!?

Johnson, Michael wrote:

  
That is not my =
understanding.

FWIW.  Mike

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:35 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


Actually no one who has been holds any SCI tickets can admit to doing=20
so :) One can say you have been the subject of a Special Backgroud=20
Investigation, and Extensive Background Investigation, a Full Field=20
Investigation even though 99.9999 times out of 100 these investigations=20
are done for just such access.

Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian@SLAC.Sranford.edu


-----Original Message-----
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 9:24 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I suspect that this position will be at Wright-Patterson Air Force=20
base.

OraStaff wrote:
=20

    
Position: Oracle DBA =
with Top Secret SCI Clearance
         (Please do not send your resume unless you have the required
  =20

      

  

--=20
Jesse W. Asher

"They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary
safety, deserve neither liberty or safety."  - Benjamin Franklin

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