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Subject: Re: Archiving in OPS
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If I understand you correctly, you are referring to "RAW" EMC storage as =
the shared storage array accessible from all nodes in the cluster, while =
"local" is local storage that is only accessible from the node to which =
it is directly attached?

If so, then putting the tablespaces on that "local" storage will never =
work.  Likewise, if the rollback tablespaces were also not in "raw" =
devices;  it would never work (unless you are using a clustered =
file-system such as available on Tru64).  In both cases, OPS/RAC would =
fail to startup...
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Muqthar Ahmed=20
  To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L=20
  Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:48 PM
  Subject: RE: Archiving in OPS


  Hi,

  You can not setup your archive logs in EMC storage (RAW).  Currently I =
am working on this project.  Oracle recommends that the following setup:

            SYSTEM / DATA / INDEX / TEMP / OTHER TBLS / REDOLOGS     =
-----     RAW (EMC storage)
             ARCHIVE LOGS / ROLLBACK (UNDO)                              =
           -----     LOCAL (on each instance)

  You can use FAILOVER to move archive location.  For example:

       Instance1            Instance2
       PROD1               PROD2
       /d01/arch1           /d02/arch2

  If Instance1 goes down, using FAILOVER method, /d01/arch1 will be =
automatically mounted on Instance2.  Check with your UNIX Administrator =
about FAILOVER mechanism.

  Muqthar Ahmed
  DBA
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Ramon E. Estevez [mailto:com.banilejas@codetel.net.do]
    Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 12:59 PM
    To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
    Subject: Archiving in OPS


    Hi list,

    Scenario OPS, 2 nodes, 8.1.7, AIX using raw devices, EMC box.

    I am new in OPS and have to implement archiving in an OPS =
environment and configure RMAN to use with LEGATO.

    My question is how to organize the archives.  What will happen if =
one of the nodes goes down ?

    I think that the 2 nodes have to see each other and write archive =
files to the same place, for instance I  assume that the archive files =
have to be in the EMC box .

    I have been gathering very helpful information from the list in the =
past week about RMAN, but if you have some scripts, some documentation, =
links about it will be very appreciated.

    TIA

    Ramon E. Estevez
    com.banilejas@codetel.net.do
    809-565-3121

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If I understand you correctly, you are =
referring to=20
"RAW" EMC storage as the shared storage array accessible from all nodes =
in the=20
cluster, while "local" is local storage that is only accessible from the =
node to=20
which it is directly attached?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>If so, then putting the tablespaces on =
that "local"=20
storage will never work.&nbsp; Likewise, if the rollback tablespaces =
were also=20
not in "raw" devices;&nbsp; it would never work (unless you are using a=20
clustered file-system such as available on Tru64).&nbsp; In both cases, =
OPS/RAC=20
would fail to startup...</FONT></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DMuqthar.Ahmed@decoratetoday.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:Muqthar.Ahmed@decoratetoday.com">Muqthar Ahmed</A> =
</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3DORACLE-L@fatcity.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:ORACLE-L@fatcity.com">Multiple recipients of list =
ORACLE-L</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June 06, 2002 =
1:48=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Archiving in =
OPS</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002>Hi,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D052453118-06062002>You=20
  can not setup your archive logs in EMC storage (RAW).&nbsp; Currently =
I am=20
  working on this project.&nbsp; Oracle recommends that the following=20
  setup:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  =
class=3D052453118-06062002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;=20
  SYSTEM / DATA / INDEX / TEMP / OTHER TBLS / =
REDOLOGS&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  -----&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; RAW (EMC storage)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  =
class=3D052453118-06062002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  ARCHIVE LOGS / ROLLBACK=20
  =
(UNDO)&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  -----&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; LOCAL (on each =
instance)</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D052453118-06062002>You=20
  can use FAILOVER to move archive location.&nbsp; For=20
  example:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
Instance1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;=20
  Instance2</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  =
PROD1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;PROD2</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  /d01/arch1&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =

  /d02/arch2</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN =
class=3D052453118-06062002>If=20
  Instance1 goes down, using FAILOVER method, /d01/arch1 will be =
automatically=20
  mounted on Instance2.&nbsp; Check with your UNIX Administrator about =
FAILOVER=20
  mechanism.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002></SPAN></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002>Muqthar Ahmed</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2><SPAN=20
  class=3D052453118-06062002>DBA</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV class=3DOutlookMessageHeader dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><FONT =
face=3DTahoma=20
    size=3D2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Ramon E. Estevez =

    [mailto:com.banilejas@codetel.net.do]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, June =
06,=20
    2002 12:59 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list=20
    ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B> Archiving in OPS<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Hi list,</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Scenario OPS, 2 nodes, 8.1.7, AIX =
using raw=20
    devices, EMC box.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I am new in OPS and have to =
implement=20
    archiving in an OPS environment and configure RMAN to use with=20
    LEGATO.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>My question is how to organize =
the=20
    archives.&nbsp; What will happen if one of the nodes goes down=20
?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I think that the&nbsp;2 nodes =
have to see=20
    each other and write archive files to the same place, for instance =
I&nbsp;=20
    assume that the archive files have to be in the EMC box =
.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>I have been gathering very =
helpful=20
    information from the list in the past week about RMAN, but if you =
have some=20
    scripts, some documentation, links about it will be very=20
    appreciated.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>TIA</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana size=3D2>Ramon E. Estevez<BR><A=20
    =
href=3D"mailto:com.banilejas@codetel.net.do">com.banilejas@codetel.net.do=
</A><BR>809-565-3121</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>=


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