Return-Path: Received: from newsfeed.cts.com (newsfeed.cts.com [209.68.248.164]) by naude.co.za (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g4VLnGx28014 for ; Fri, 31 May 2002 17:49:16 -0400 Received: from fatcity.UUCP (uucp@localhost) by newsfeed.cts.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id GAA54965; Fri, 31 May 2002 06:48:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by fatcity.com (26-Feb-2001/v1.0g-b71/bab) via UUCP id 00470BB1; Fri, 31 May 2002 06:19:12 -0800 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 May 2002 06:19:12 -0800 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L X-Comment: Oracle RDBMS Community Forum X-Sender: Hately Mike Sender: root@fatcity.com Reply-To: ORACLE-L@fatcity.com Errors-To: ML-ERRORS@fatcity.com From: Hately Mike Subject: RE: So, What is a 'Production DBA'? Organization: Fat City Network Services, San Diego, California X-ListServer: v1.0g, build 71; ListGuru (c) 1996-2001 Bruce A. Bergman Precedence: bulk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Wow Joe, how very like-minded we are. I'm not in the least swayed in this opinion by my programmer/system administrator/oracle DBA career path. 3 years PL/1,DL/1 and Assembler programming for those of you with good memories. 3 years mainframe system admin (VSE? VM?). Actually still programming at the same time. Long days! 11 years sys admin and Oracle DBA with the balance shifting further towards DBA as the years went by. =) Mike -----Original Message----- Sent: 31 May 2002 13:58 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L For what it's worth I'll add my .02 cents worth to this. I've been in IT now for 14 years, started with Informix for my first 3 or 4 years, the rest with Oracle. I've seen my share of duhvelopers but get the best giggles from the "fights" that happen between DBA's and System Admins. You know the type I'm talking about, the DBA says the semaphores need to be tweaked and the System Admin knows nothing about Oracle and doesn't want a lowly DBA to poke around ;-) In my humble opinion, perfect path to DBA enlightenment: A couple or three years as a developer, a few as a System Admin a year as a junior DBA learning the Job Joe -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Hately Mike INET: Mike.Hately@churchill.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).