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Subject: Re: Database backup question.
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On Thursday 23 May 2002 20:13, Tim Gorman wrote:
...
>
> So, here's the point:  what if you take a cold backup in NOARCHIVELOG mode
> after a SHUTDOWN ABORT (that should have been a SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE and
> wasn't) and you have *not* backed up those online redo log files?  Answer:
> unusable backup.  So, back up everything:  all datafiles, controlfiles, and
> online redo logfiles.  The latter are not too big anyway -- what's the
> point of excluding them?
>

I have on more than one occasion been glad to have the online redo
logs backed up.  The common wisdom is that you don't need them.

For various reasons they have at times made the difference between
a recoverable backup and an unrecoverable backup.

Particularly on NT, where there is no dearth of people that really don't
know what they are doing with databases.

Jared
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