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Re:RE: MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters

From: <dgoulet_at_vicr.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Feb 2002 16:55:30 -0800
Message-ID: <F001.004095AB.20020207132318@fatcity.com>

Yup, as setup by the HP specialist.

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Author: "Adams; Matthew (GEA; 088130)" <MATT.ADAMS_at_APPL.GE.COM>
Date:       2/7/2002 10:14 AM

Were you only running a single heartbeat connection?



Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com "Doing linear scans over an associative array is like trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi."

>-----Original Message-----
>From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com]
>Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:00 AM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: Re:MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters
>
>
>Rama,
>
> We did the MC/ServiceGuard thing some years ago. Worked
>well, after our SA
>rebuilt the servers from ground 0. Adding it on to an
>existing server is ok,
>but somewhat unstable. One item to be VERY careful of. The
>heartbeat cable, in
>our case a ethernet thin line, needs to be on a dedicated
>link, preferably a
>purchased vs. custom made cable, and protected from accidental
>disconnect. Ours
>got disconnected by a contractor working in the computer room
>because "it was in
>his way". The resulting reboot of the backup server and
>forcible takeover of
>the disk farm absolutely destroyed the database. We had more
>file corruption
>than I ever could have imagined. Consequently we abandoned
>ServiceGuard & are
>going to standby databases instead.
>
>Dick Goulet
>
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>Author: "Rama Malladi" <rama_at_toyota.com>
>Date: 2/6/2002 5:23 PM
>
>Hi...
> I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in both
>MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation.
>If a DBA/SA
>team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard
>clusters on HP
>and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution ...
>
>a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun
>clusters (ex: about 5
>minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in a
>cluster, disk
>sharing etc..)
>
>b) Any differences between these... What are the things to
>watch out for
>(assuming the team already knows in and out of MC/Serviceguard)
>
>Thank you in advance...
>Rama
>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Were you only running a single heartbeat connection?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Matt Adams - GE Appliances - matt.adams_at_appl.ge.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&quot;Doing linear scans over an associative array is
like</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; - Larry Wall (creator of Perl) </FONT> </P>

<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;From: dgoulet_at_vicr.com [<A HREF="mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com">mailto:dgoulet_at_vicr.com</A>]</FONT>

<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2002 9:00 AM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Subject: Re:MC/Serviceguard vs Sun Clusters</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Rama,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We did the MC/ServiceGuard thing some
years ago.&nbsp; Worked </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;well, after our SA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;rebuilt the servers from ground 0.&nbsp; Adding it on to an
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;existing server is ok,</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;but somewhat unstable.&nbsp; One item to be VERY careful
of.&nbsp; The </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;heartbeat cable, in</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;our case a ethernet thin line, needs to be on a dedicated
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;link, preferably a</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;purchased vs. custom made cable, and protected from
accidental </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;disconnect.&nbsp; Ours</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;got disconnected by a contractor working in the computer room </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;because &quot;it was in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;his way&quot;.&nbsp; The resulting reboot of the backup server and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;forcible takeover of</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;the disk farm absolutely destroyed the database.&nbsp; We had more </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;file corruption</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;than I ever could have imagined.&nbsp; Consequently we
abandoned </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;ServiceGuard &amp; are</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;going to standby databases instead.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Dick Goulet</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;____________________Reply
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Author: &quot;Rama Malladi&quot; &lt;rama_at_toyota.com&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2/6/2002 5:23 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Hi...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I am looking for inputs from anybody who has experience in
both</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;MC/Serviceguard (MC/S) as well as Sun cluster implementation. </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;If a DBA/SA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;team has lots of experience in implementing MC/Serviceguard
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;clusters on HP</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;and trying to move to SunClusters for HA solution
...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;a) What are the common things between MC/S and and Sun
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;clusters (ex: about 5</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;minute fail-over time, fixed IP address, 2 or more nodes in
a </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;cluster, disk</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;sharing etc..)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;b) Any differences between these... What are the things to
</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;watch out for</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;(assuming the team already knows in and out of&nbsp;
MC/Serviceguard)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Thank you in advance...</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Rama</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;Author: Rama Malladi</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;&nbsp; INET: rama_at_toyota.com</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt;</FONT>
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