RE: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion

Hello All

I am new to this list (only a few weeks). I subscribed to this list and another one at the same time. This list is a source of knowledge and fun and the other is just business. This one is so much better.

Yechiel Adar, Mehish Computer Services
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Johnston, Tim [SMTP:TJohnston_at_quallaby.com]
> Sent: Tue, January 22, 2002 12:31 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: OT: Yet Another Off Topic Discussion
>
> My own 2 cents... Stating a viewpoint such as this and then saying "do
> not
> reply to this" is just not acceptable... This topic has been discussed on
> the list innumerable times over the years and it is always a hot bed of
> discussion... And, it always seems to reach the same conclusion... In
> summary, keep it on topic but the occasional OT post is tolerated...
> Anything more then that should not be done or moved to the OT list... So,
> here we are yet again... And, here is MY opinion... I view this list as
> a
> community... Not just a technical list... Many people on this list have
> been on for years and enjoy to occasionally have some fun... I personally
> enjoy the occasional joke or OT thread... It gives the list personality
> and
> allows me feel like I am getting to know the other people on the list...
> That is why I am on this list and not some of the other discussion
> forumsSome other forums operate as you desire... I avoid those... The
> reason is
> that I want to enjoy my job... And the occasional laugh I get from this
> list has more then once made a miserable day better... If I wanted to
> purely technical list I would go to another forum... But I don't.... I
> like this list AS IS... And, if I feel that I am getting to much email,
> the
> delete key works great...
>
> Tim
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 11:10 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> My 2 cents' worth:
>
> Far too much time is spent by a number of users in the Oracle List sending
> e-mail of no worth whatsoever. Half the msgs I read are what charitably
> might be called 'chat'. I understand that there is an off-line site for
> 'chat' - why not use it and stop mucking up the e-mail waves with crap.
> Even
> a small drop in aimless e-mails would be appreciated; 90%+ directed,
> professional queries and replies would be wonderful.
>
> Please do not reply to this e-mail; this is my one-time attempt to bring
> about a positive change.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Paul Sherman
> DBA
> voice - 781-501-4143 (office)
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> email - psherman_at_elcom.com
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2002 10:36 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> Love is all you need.
>
> --- Rachel Carmichael <wisernet100_at_yahoo.com> wrote:
> > or, of course, the answer to life, the universe and everything is?
> >
> > --- Jared Still <jkstill_at_cybcon.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > If the question is "Which episode of Star Trek was 'The Trouble
> > with
> > > Tribbles'", then yes. ;)
> > >
> > > Jared
> > >
> > > On Sunday 20 January 2002 01:30, Mogens Nרrgaard wrote:
> > > > Yep. And we also found logoff-triggers in 8i to be useful for the
> > > same
> > > > (and additional) purposes.
> > > >
> > > > But if I had to guess, I'm sure the answer would be 42 :-).
> > > >
> > > > Mogens
> > > >
> > > > Chaim.Katz_at_Completions.Bombardier.com wrote:
> > > > >Raj,
> > > > >Maybe another option would be to "audit session" for the
> > database.
> > > For
> > > > >each logon/logoff you would see the logical/physical reads and
> > > the
> > > > > logical writes ( in dba_audit_session) by Oracle username (or
> > > > > osusername). Chaim
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"Aponte, Tony" <AponteT_at_hsn.net>@fatcity.com on 01/16/2002
> > > 06:15:24 PM
> > > > >
> > > > >Please respond to ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >Sent by: root_at_fatcity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > > > >cc:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Then you're in luck. I'd recommend starting with Oracle
> > Response
> > > Time
> > > > >Analysis from www.orapub.com. Although it won't give you
> > exactly
> > > what
> > > > > you need, it will help you get to the next step. Once you
> > > understand a
> > > > > session's response time components, it's a short hop to
> > figuring
> > > out the
> > > > > V$SESSTAT statistics that make up the CPU time,
> > physical/logical
> > > I/O
> > > > > operations and memory footprint.
> > > > >
> > > > >HTH
> > > > >Tony
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:54 PM
> > > > >To: Aponte, Tony; ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Database Load ... is the main target at this time ...
> > > > >
> > > > >Thanks Tony,
> > > > >
> > > > >Raj
> > > > >______________________________________________________
> > > > >
> > > > >Rajendra Jamadagni MIS, ESPN Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > >Rajendra dot Jamadagni at ESPN dot com
> > > > >
> > > > >Any opinion expressed here is personal and doesn't reflect that
> > > of ESPN
> > > > >Inc.
> > > > >
> > > > >QOTD: Any clod can have facts, but having an opinion is an
> > art!
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 5:53 PM
> > > > >To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > > > >Cc: Rajendra.Jamadagni_at_espn.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Raj, sorry for me being confused. Are you trying to measure
> > what
> > > the
> > > > >application executable is doing outside the database (i.e..
> > host
> > > system
> > > > >load) or the activity inside the database (i.e.. per
> > > user/program/module
> > > > >DB stats)?
> > > > >
> > > > >Tony
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