and the index is getting better and better, you can search there as
well for things
  -   Jared.Still_at_radisys.com wrote:
> 
> Sorry, I don't find that a problem.
> 
> Use the index, look for relevant chapters in the manual.
> 
> The online manuals have a search feature.  It's also
> available via WWW at tahiti.oracle.com.
> 
> If you're not sure where to read, then ask someone.
> 
> Asking where to find something in the manual is fine.
> 
> Just don't expect others to do the research.
> 
> Jared
> 
> 
> 
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> A problem with RTFM is when the manual is over 10,000 pages long.
> 
> Regards,
> Patrice Boivin
> Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
> 
> 
>  -----Original Message-----
> Sent:           Thursday, December 27, 2001 2:15 PM
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> 
> Yeah, once they find out this job isn't a cakewalk, they vanish.
> 
> For those that:
> 
> * live for challenge
> * are afraid of nothing and not intimidated by complexity
> * make that, 'love complexity'  ;)
> * can't forget about a problem until it's fixed
> * willing to RTFM til they drop
> * design and execute tests to understand how things work
> * RTFM some more
> * drive technology.  Hey, there's more to a good DBA than databases.
> * did I mention RTFM?
> * learn from their mistakes
> * admit they make mistakes
> * RTFM to minimize mistakes
> 
> All others need not apply.
> 
> Jared
> 
> "No guts, no glory"  ;)
> 
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>                     "Kimberly
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> You need to find some new cooks then.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> dgoulet_at_vicr.com
> Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2001 6:50 AM
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> 
> In our shop we've tried the cross training tact.  Problem was that
> those
> who
> accepted the challenge could not take the heat, so they left the
> kitchen.
> Damn!!!
> 
> Dick Goulet
> 
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: "CHAN Chor Ling Catherine (CSC)" <clchan_at_nie.edu.sg>
> Date:       12/26/2001 4:50 PM
> 
> I quite agree with Kimberly. I used to be a full-fledge Oracle
> programmer
> but wanted to dabble with database administration. I asked my boss
> whether
> I
> could be a database administrator. His answer is yes but I still need
> to
> maintain my current systems.  Now, I am a database
> administrator-cum-programmer.  I support turnkey projects, automate
> processes for my users, maintain current projects, install/maintain
> database
> & support Oracle Applications etc.
> 
> Prepare for lots of OT but what the heck, U will get to learn a lots
> of
> interesting things in the process ....
> 
> New Bees
>                 -----Original Message-----
>                 From:   Kimberly Smith
> [mailto:ksmith2_at_MYFIRSTLINK.NET]
>                 Sent:   Thursday, December 27, 2001 1:40 AM
>                 To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>                 Subject:        RE: database administration questions
> 
>                 If you work on a site like I do you could always
> cross
> train.  I am always
>                 looking for suckers (um, people) to be my backup. 
> Right
> now
> I use one from
>                 the Unix team and one from the development team.  Its
> the
> only way I get to
>                 take vacations and what no.  Check with your current
> DBA
> and
> see if they are
>                 willing to train you while you are off doing your
> 'real'
> job.  Of course,
>                 there are some folks who are worried about job
> security (or
> are just
>                 assholes)
>                 and they would not give you the time of day.  You
> don't
> want
> to learn from
>                 those folks anyway.  The excuse, "I'm too busy" is
> not
> really valid either.
>                 Training someone allowed me to offload some of my
> work.
> 
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