From kimberly.smith@gmd.fujitsu.com Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:54:21 -0700 From: Kimberly Smith Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 08:54:21 -0700 Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Title: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance Come to think about it, access to my server room for Unix installs would be a waste of my time.  We have consoles on the servers with command line interface only.  Works for maintaince during downtimes when the network is out (planned downtimes) but other then that I don't use them.  And even then, I usually let the Unix guys do their stuff first (since they are usually doing stuff for me:-) and by then the network is backup so I go back to my Xterm or my PC.  -----Original Message-----From: Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) [mailto:MATT.ADAMS@APPL.GE.COM]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:05 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance We keep images of the cd-roms for all current (and past) versions on a 'software depot' (unix tar files) so I only need to have CDs loaded once for any given version.  We only support Oracle on Unix, no NT systems.   For most versions I give the CD-s to unix admin, ask them the mount them. For 8.1.7, I was able to ZIP the image of the cd on my PC, ftp it to a sun box, unzip it, then TAR it and move it into the software depot. (and the file names all came out correctly!, suprised the %$^%$#%^ out of me!)  Did the same thing with 9i.   I have a PC and a dedicated HP X-Terminal (very VERY OLD) on my desk.  I pretty much use PC for e-mail and other office work stuff.  My X-term is my LIFE.  But, I have used just about every PC X-Term emulation software on the planet at one time or another.  All have worked for installing Oracle so far.  But your caveat is well taken. The speed of the network would be a major factor here.  My X-term is 10 Mbs ethernet to the hub and 100 mbs ethernet between hubs.  Not screamingly fast, but performance is still OK.   Matt ---- matt.adams@appl.ge.com              - GE Appliances   The thrill is gone. --  B. B. King If the thrill is gone, then it's time to take it back.  -- Meatloaf    
-----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu@efairfield.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 10:55 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance I meant install in general.  It took forever to do it over a fairly weak network. Never went in the computer room? Really?? Cool :)  But did someone physically load the cd on the host for you?  Or did you run it from your pc? -----Original Message----- From:   Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130) [SMTP:MATT.ADAMS@APPL.GE.COM] Sent:   Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:45 AM To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:        RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance Are you talking NT only or install in general?  On unix all you need is a decent X-windows package for your PC (Exceed, ChameleonX, Reflection X?, etc).   I've been here 3 years, installed at least 30 new systems and have never been in any of our computer rooms. -----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu@efairfield.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:05 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance OK, terminal services? I agree that install is an exception.  It's nearly impossible if you aren't sitting in front of the host.