From MATT.ADAMS@APPL.GE.COM Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:54:12 -0700 From: "Adams, Matthew (GEA, 088130)" Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 05:54:12 -0700 Subject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Title: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance Are you talking NT only or install in general?  On unix all you need is a decent X-windows package for your PC (Exceed, ChameleonX, Reflection X?, etc).   I've been here 3 years, installed at least 30 new systems and have never been in any of our computer rooms.
-----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu@efairfield.com]Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 9:05 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance OK, terminal services? I agree that install is an exception.  It's nearly impossible if you aren't sitting in front of the host. -----Original Message----- From:   Christopher Spence [SMTP:cspence@FuelSpot.com] Sent:   Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:45 AM To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Subject:        RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance This doesn't work for NT machines, and it with Unix you cannot install 8.1.6 without X access.   "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes." Christopher R. SpenceOracle DBAPhone: (978) 322-5744Fax:    (707) 885-2275 Fuelspot73 Princeton StreetNorth, Chelmsford 01863  -----Original Message-----From: Koivu, Lisa [mailto:lisa.koivu@efairfield.com]Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:45 AMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject: RE: Physical access to servers for maintenance   What's wrong with telnetting in?  -----Original Message-----From:   Steven Lembark [SMTP:lembark@wrkhors.com]Sent:   Tuesday, September 25, 2001 11:20 AMTo:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LSubject:        Re: Physical access to servers for maintenance   -- "Smith, Ron L." > Our hardware people are cracking sown on access to the computer room.> They have decided the DBA group can do all their work without going to> the server itself.  This includes Unix and NT server running both Oracle> and SQL Server. We would have to use VNC Viewer and PC Anywhere.  I am> trying to put together a list of things we might need to do that would> make remote admin difficult as well as taking longer.  If you have any> ideas I would appreciate it. How about "Your Work"? Last time I looked it's rather hard to run svrmgrl without access tothe command line.  So long as you don't want to start or stop thedatabase this probably won't have any effect. Checking free disk space is also simpler with "df".  You can, perhaps,memorize the nubmber of blocks on every device and compare them to thefree space reported by Oracle each morning. Simplest method would be to say "no we don't need it now, what is thepager number of someone we can use if we do need things done?"  Makea point of paging them every time you need something from the shell,day or night.  That person will, I'm sure, be happy to compile a listof the trivial things they've been forced to do that the DBA should havedone for themselves at 3am... --Steven Lembark                                               2930 W. PalmerWorkhorse Computing                                       Chicago, IL 60647                                                            +1 800 762 1582--Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: <http://www.orafaq.com>--Author: Steven Lembark  INET: lembark@wrkhors.com Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists--------------------------------------------------------------------To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail messageto: ListGuru@fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and inthe message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You mayalso send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).