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Re: Permanent Tablespace for sorting.

From: Joan Hsieh <joan.hsieh_at_tufts.edu>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 11:31:20 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0037DB2A.20010830105904@fatcity.com>

Dick,

Just wondering why not just convert it to temp tablespace?

Joan Hsieh
DBA -ocp 7&8
617-627-5032

dgoulet_at_vicr.com wrote:
>
> Chris,
>
> I've always used a permanent tablespace for temp and have not had the
> problems you state. But it does take some consistency to maintain.
>
> 1- we never allow anyone a quota on temp or even allow anyone to have that as
> their default. Come to think of it only sys has system as it's default
> tablespace. We also do not allow 'unlimited tablespace' even to purchased apps.
> 2- The ST enqueue has not been a problem, actually have 0 contention there even
> in the data warehouse.
> 3- we don't back it up. Have had one get trashed, along with the disk drive.
> Did an offline drop and rebuilt it elsewhere.
>
> Dick Goulet
>
> ____________________Reply Separator____________________
> Author: Christopher Spence <cspence_at_FuelSpot.com>
> Date: 8/28/2001 5:50 AM
>
> No, it is generally better practice to use temporary tablespace for the
> following reasons.
>
> 1. You will not accidentently store objects in it.
> 2. Reduced contention for the ST enqueue
> 3. Reduce backup and recovery time
>
> "Do not criticize someone until you walked a mile in their shoes, that way
> when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and have their shoes."
>
> Christopher R. Spence
> Oracle DBA
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:11 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary tablespace for sort
> operations.
> Is there any advantage in using a permanent tablespace instead of a
> temporary for sort operations?
>
> rgds
> amar
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> <DIV><SPAN class=040424112-28082001><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>No, it is
> generally better practice to use temporary tablespace for the following
> reasons.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=040424112-28082001><FONT color=#0000ff
> size=2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=040424112-28082001><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>1.&nbsp; You will
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> not accidentently store objects in it.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=040424112-28082001><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>2.&nbsp; Reduced
> contention for the ST enqueue</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><SPAN class=040424112-28082001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>3.
> Reduce backup and recovery time</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">"Do not criticize someone until you walked a
> mile in their shoes, that way when you criticize them, you are a mile a way and
> have their shoes."</FONT></DIV>
> <P><FONT face=Script size=5>Christopher R. Spence</FONT> <BR><FONT
> face="Comic Sans MS" size=2>Oracle DBA</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
> size=2>Phone: (978) 322-5744</FONT> <BR><FONT face="Comic Sans MS"
> size=2>Fax:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; (707) 885-2275</FONT> </P>
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> face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Amar Kumar Padhi
>
> [mailto:TS2017_at_emirates.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:11
> AM<BR><B>To:</B> Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L<BR><B>Subject:</B>
> Permanent Tablespace for sorting. <BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR>
> <P><FONT face=Courier size=2>Oracle recommends creation of separate temporary
> tablespace for sort operations.&nbsp; </FONT><BR><FONT face=Courier size=2>Is
> there any advantage in using a permanent tablespace instead of a temporary for
>
> sort operations? </FONT></P>
> <P><FONT face=Courier size=2>rgds</FONT> <BR><FONT face=Courier
> size=2>amar</FONT> </P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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