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RE: RE: How do you audit a DBA?

From: JOE TESTA <JTESTA_at_longaberger.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 12:14:19 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00375DCC.20010823121040@fatcity.com>

maybe/maybe not, here is why,
 
if i'm going to make changes(and try not to get caught),i'd be granting update on table to someone else, change their password, login as them, change the password back and it would totally look like someone else did it.  
If you can't trust the DBA, there is bigger problems than that at the organization.
 
joe
>>> Waleed.Khedr_at_FMR.COM 08/23/01 03:43PM
>>>If it's really that bad, then we are talking about setting
something up thatthe DBA wouldn't know about!I do not know if the logminer could help here!Regards,Waleed-----Original Message-----Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 1:36 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-LWaleed,   
Regrettably in our 'legalistic' world this is not possible if all youhaveis a suspicion, you need facts to back them up.  And getting facts in thiscasecan be very difficult at best.  What could be a solution in this case isthatsomeone has a suspicion that this person is modifying data inside thesesensitive tables during some time frame.  Well it may be wise to send themofffor a week to a training class where they would be isolated from thedatabase inquestion.  If the alteration of data records ceases then there is probablecausefor a more direct line of questioning, etc...  If not you may be suspectingsomeone who is really a front for an other person who has acquired thatDBA'spassword.  My first line would be to have all of the DBA's change theirpasswords as well as the passwords for sys and system.    I wonder, if I tried to connect to that

database assys/change_on_install orsystem/manager, would I 
succeed??Dick Goulet____________________Reply 
Separator____________________Author: "Khedr; Waleed" 
<Waleed.Khedr_at_FMR.COM>Date:      
8/23/2001 9:11 AMIf you don't trust the DBA then fire him!DBA has access to do everything including the audit records which he/she canmodify easily!Waleed-----Original Message-----Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:52 PMTo: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-Lyou'd better audit changes to the trigger, and then changes to SYS.AUD$otherwise the DBA could disable the trigger, make the changes and re-enable it>From: Dave Leach
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ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>>Subject: How do you audit a DBA?>Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2001 07:56:29 -0800>>Anyone who can help,>>I've been asked if Oracle can somehow audit the DBA ie. Raise an alert if>the DBA were to execute DML statements against sensitive tables, this>assumes the DBA has the SYS password.  I thought this was a pretty>reasonable question but couldn't think of an answer.  My trail of though >was>maybe an email alert to a designated member of staff sent via a trigger on>the table.>>Any comments would be very
appreciated.>>Dave
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