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I am pro vaccine. I am not pro vaccines with mercury. My wife feels our daughter's autism was caused by the themerisol shots. I am not in agreement, but I cannot dismiss it out of hand. The commonality of the symptoms between mercury poisoning and autism is staggering. I want, however, to see the data showing the linkage, not just testimonials. There are testimonials to the effect that eating your own waste cures cancer.
I checked on two of the other doctors, besides Amy Holmes, claiming very favorable, fantastic, results with autisitc children via mercury chelation. It turns out two of them are chiropractors. They are both listed as MD's as well. Does Florida consider DC's to be MD's? If so, that state is one I shall not inhabit. My limited experience with chiropractors and my reading of a book by one has led me to conclude that fraud is rampant in that profession. Dr Holmes was an oncologist before becoming a pediatrician. She chelated her son, diagnosed a severely autistic and mentally retarded. He is now a "normal" bright individual, the top of his class at a regular elementary? school. I dismiss the chiropractors claims as poppycock, but Holmes is a different story. I believe she is claiming that 74% of children under four or five are showing either great or moderate improvement, some older children are showing none. I do not know what scale she is using to judge these improvements. Some studies of autism have indicated that 40% of parents swear their child is improving when given a placebo.
Whether the linkage between autism and mercury is proven or not. All you need is a bit of common sense to figger injecting mercury into children is not beneficial. Lead wick candles were banned because the lead oxide particulate from them settles own flat surfaces where it can be consumed by children. Yet we inject as much mercury as is in a can of tuna into a newborn.
I am do not like the vaccine schedule. I see no reason for HepB at birth, unless lifestyle or back ground suggests that it should be done. Even better would be to test the mothers. Apparently some HepB vaccines are still being manufactured with thimerosal. I see no reason to vaccinate against chicken pox. I believe MMR can be delayed until the child is ready for kindergarden. However I also believe vaccines against meningitis and polio should be given as early as possible.
Ian MacGregor
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
ian_at_slac.stanford.edu
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Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 11:35 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Lisa, chill. <grin> You by definition get batty the minute you have kids. All the rest is details. You've seen my brood, briefly, so you know how nuts it can get (I had to throw out the boots BTW <evil grin>).
A lot of the info comes from the net, with suspect sources. Believe it if you will. Or not. Personally I'd like to see the evidence backing up some of these apocryphal claims against vaccines, etc. A lot of what is presented as evidence is very poorly designed or extrapolated. Examine the actual studies. Do they really exist? If so, how was the data compiled. If you are not of an analytical bent, get a friend or doctor to look over the abstract or actual data.
I was vaccinated (including some of the really good ones you get in the military that make you sick for a week) and my kids are vaccinated with no ill effects so far. I see it as a better preventative than hoping some internet site with a sensationalistic agenda MIGHT be correct in their assertions.
And if I'm wrong? Well, I never did desire to live forever - that would be too boring for words after a point...
Scott Shafer
Converse, TX
> "Koivu, Lisa" wrote:
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> YOU GUYS ARE SCARING ME OUT OF HAVING CHILDREN!
>
> How on earth can a parent make the right decisions?? All the
> information flying around on the list is pretty unnerving. Sure the
> numbers may be very low but the #1 thing I worry about (and most other
> expectant parents) is the baby's health. How do all you parents do
> this without going batty....
>
> But thanks for sharing all this info.
-- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Scott Shafer INET: sknd100_at_yahoo.com Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: MacGregor, Ian A. INET: ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: ListGuru_at_fatcity.com (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).Received on Fri Aug 17 2001 - 20:29:26 CDT
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