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RE: RE: RAID or NOT to RAID?

From: Denmark Weatherburne <denmark_weatherburne_at_hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 15:05:52 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00366544.20010809140604@fatcity.com>

Hi DBA's:

I've been researching this issue as well. All the expert advice seems to point to using RAID 1+0 for OLTP implementations and RAID 5 for DSS (Read-Only) implementations. I also found out that you can use raw partitions on NT as well. Does anyone have experience with setting up raw partitions on NT? I still don't know how one would separate datafiles from indexfiles and REDOLogfiles under RAID implementations? Any ideas?

I agree that it boils down to the fundamental question of cost vs performance. Nevertheless, DBA's and SA's still have to be familiar with these configurations to be efficient.

Regards,

Denmark Weatherburne
Belize

>From: Berj Kacherian <BKacherian_at_foxsports.com>
>To: "LazyDBA.com Discussion" <oracledba_at_lazydba.com>
>Subject: RE: RE: RAID or NOT to RAID?
>Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 10:19:26 -0700
>
>You've got the right idea. RAID 1+0 is the best that you can use, but also
>expensive. It all comes down to the age old question of money and
>performance. Just remember, when the system is slow, management is not
>going to ask the finance guy why he did not spend more for a better layout,
>they are going to ask the dba why the db is so slow. Always ask for the
>best layout that you know. When they balk at it, make sure you document in
>an email that they are giving up performance. When the system starts
>running slow, you've got yourself covered!
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us [mailto:Paula_Stankus_at_doh.state.fl.us]
>Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 5:25 AM
>To: LazyDBA.com Discussion
>Subject: RE: RE: RAID or NOT to RAID?
>
>
>
>Okay,
>
>Guys I know there have been discussions about this but can someone confirm
>my understanding of the situation. Working and researching use of RAID
>with
>Oracle it has been come clear to me that there are many views in regards to
>Oracle databases. I.E. stripe using RAID and don't worry at all about
>separating segments. Stripe using RAID but still don't put all types of
>Oracle segments (even striped) on the same physical disks. It seems to me
>that even using RAID 1+0 the optimum situation is to have enough disks to
>stripe and to also separate out redo logs, archives, data from index (at
>the
>least). However, this can definitely become expensive. Of course, you can
>use different types of RAID but then SA balk at the complexity and is the
>bang worth the buck. If it is a highly concurrent medium sized OLTP system
>with Oracle on Sun using RAID 1+0 (Veritas) what is the best way to go.
>Also, I have tried separating redo versus all data stripped all across
>available disks and the redo write waits reported by my monitoring tool
>were
>about the same and still high (supposedly should be about 20ms and was
>reporting at times 30-60 ms). Also, the workload I was running to test was
>a migration workload which means large batch writes and in my mind I can't
>both optimize I/O layout for both that and common random I/O of typical
>OLTP
>daily operations. So I would optimize for the typical daily operations -
>try to get the developer to tune the batch process - change some of the
>memory parameters for the migration process (as nothing else will be
>happening on the system) and live with any I/O constraints after that. Any
>advice - would appreciate info. from the Quest contributors the tool I have
>been using to monitor is indeed Spotlight.
>
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