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RE: Code Red

From: Boivin, Patrice J <BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 11:47:03 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.0036336B.20010807115545@fatcity.com>

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Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:kevin_at_dulcian.com]
        Sent:   Tuesday, August 07, 2001 4:36 PM
        To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
        Subject:        RE: Code Red

        Patrice,
                I have a friend downstairs who said I should use Fprot to
get rid of this
        rogue web page, I am going to download it now.  I am interested in
this
        TDS-3 program, can I get that at downloads.com or is it somewhere
else?
        KK

        -----Original Message-----
        Patrice J
        Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 3:06 PM
        To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


        Update your virus checking software.  Patch your software and your
OS as far
        as you can.  Re. NT use PatchWork as well (
http://grc.com/pw/patchwork.htm
        <http://grc.com/pw/patchwork.htm>  ), it catches things the
Microsoft
        Windows Update seems to overlook.

        You may want to get a trojan detector like tds-3 to catch trojans
like
        CodeRed II.  There are many trojan detectors posted on the 'net.
Beware of
        free ones. Stay clear of anything on servers in countries that do
not
        recognize copyright laws, or who might be actively financing
hackers!
        Sounds obvious but sometimes people don't think about this when they
are
        following links on the Web.  Look at where a link leads (bottom
status bar
        if using IE) before you click.

        You also need something that is current.  Anything that hasn't been
updated
        in the last year is probably useless.

        It seems to me that now we need:

        A virus / worm checker
        A trojan horse detector
        A firewall.

        Only one component missing, and you could be in trouble.

        The trouble with code red was that it went through port 80, which is
left
        open by firewalls because that is the port used for HTTP pages
(WWW).
        Closing that would mean no one could access Web pages.  So firewalls
won't
        help you re. things like that.  You can now go through any ports
that are
        left open, and there is software out there to detect ports that were
left
        open.

        Life is getting complicated!

        For trojan detection I like TDS-3 because with some plug-ins, you
can send a
        message right back to the people who are probing your system using a
trojan.
        TDS-3 also scans all the processes running in memory, and it comes
with
        interesting process descriptions for some of those obscure NT
services.
        This is from first glance, I am running the shareware version at
home.  I
        have a month to make up my mind and pay up...

        For home, ZoneAlarm (firewall) is free.  I like it because it tells
you when
        programs are trying to access your machine via ports going in, or
out.  So
        if a program on your machine wants to access the 'net, you can see
which
        program is trying to do that and you can decide whether to let it do
that or
        not.  Sometimes it's hard to decide, though, e.g. distributed COM -
should I
        let that thing send info out of my computer to the 'net?  It's a
built-in
        component of Windows, but I don't know.  (btw the author says he
programs
        only in assembly language)

        Re. virus checking F-Prot has a shareware version, that's free as
long as
        you don't mind re-installing it now and again.  I am probably going
to buy
        it eventually.  I don't know how to compare the effectiveness of
these,
        though.  Some are more popular out there but to my mind it doesn't
mean that
        they are ideal, esp. when marketing and mass advertising through the
media
        is involved.  I haven't seen any honest reviews of virus checking
software,
        I don't know where to look.

        I set up ZoneAlarm and TDS-3 on my machine at home and was surprised
to see
        what is going on.  With ZoneAlarm you can get the owner for a
particular IP
        range, so you can see who is trying to ping or intrude on your
machine.  A
        colleague here says he is on cable modem, and that is even worse
than DSL in
        terms of hacking activity, he showed me a log where he was a target
every
        ten minutes on average for a prolonged period of time.  He uses
BlackIce
        Defender.  Korean and university servers are the most common that I
see in
        use as launchpads.  It doesn't mean that's where the probes and that
attacks
        are coming from though.  T1, Cable and DSL users are most at risk,
but
        dial-up clients are vulnerable as well as long as they remain
connected.  I
        sent e-mails to some ISPs to complain, but they don't appear to care
what
        people are doing with their net connections, it seems they just want
to sell
        memberships.  In many cases they want you to prove that damage was
done,
        someone trying to invade your machine is not illegal.  The irony is
that if
        someone ever succeeded, I probably wouldn't have the information I
would
        need to lodge a formal complaint.  I gave up trying to get ISPs to
clamp
        down, better to prevent these attempts from succeeding than to try
to stop
        the behaviour.

        It's easy to become paranoid...

        Regards,
        Patrice Boivin
        Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

        Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
        Technology Services        | Services technologiques
        Informatics Branch         | Direction de l'informatique
        Maritimes Region, DFO      | Région des Maritimes, MPO

        E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>


                -----Original Message-----
                From:   Kevin Kostyszyn [SMTP:kevin_at_dulcian.com]
                Sent:   Tuesday, August 07, 2001 2:27 PM
                To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
                Subject:        RE: Code Red

                Yeah, that's what I read.  I had applied the patch and I
don't have
        Code red
                or Code Red II, however it appears that I have something
else.  It
        doesn't
                seem to have worked but it looks like someone tried to
deface our
        website.
                It's just a message that says "f--k the us government and
f--k
        poisonbox",
                not sure what to do with it yet.
                KK

                -----Original Message-----
                Brian
                Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 12:56 PM
                To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


                The worm is just memory resident, so a reboot should get rid
of it,
        BUT
                without the patch, you'll get it right back.

                The problem for the new version is it deposits a trojan
backdoor on
        your
                server.
                Mcafee dat 4152 is supposed to find the trojan, I'm sure
other virus
                scanners are releasing versions also.  Check with your
anti-virus
        site.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Kostyszyn [mailto:kevin_at_dulcian.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:56 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Code Red
>
>
> So does anyone know how to get rid of the virus if you got
it?
>
> Sincerely,
> Kevin Kostyszyn
> DBA
> Dulcian, Inc
> www.dulcian.com
> kevin_at_dulcian.com
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