RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest

I am so incredibally jealous of you!!! That's my little dream, land and sweet smelling air and trees and animals and privacy. I want to go home after work, sit on a large porch that wraps around my house, put my feet up, listen to some sweet James Taylor, smoke a grit and drink an ice cold beer and watch the sun go down:) Anyway, back to reality:(

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Dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 11:31 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

This is why I have chosen to live in a rural community so that I can have a huge garden and many fruit trees. And for the meat eaters, you can hunt Deer, turkey, pheasant and many other critters. This way I know that my produce has no chemicals and does not get picked until ripe. I just picked my first tomatoes yesterday. I had lived in places like Chicago and San Francisco but got tired of the traffic and the high cost of living. Yes, I make less than my counter parts from the big cities but my costs are less. But more importanly, I live in a place where I can walk out my backdoor and see nothing but fields and forest. It's the greatest cure for stress!!

Dave

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Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 1:35 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L

Rachel,

Do you have the 'Farmer's markets' in NY like we have here in CA? (where farmers freight and sell their farm-grown veggies and fruits in a specially agreed upon place/schedule) Have *entirely* stopped buying veggies/fruits from the grocery store since the farmer's markets opened this Spring. Will miss them in Fall/Winter though.... I did go down to a farm and hand-picked berries in NJ when we were there. Is it worth the drive down the turnpike?

John Kanagaraj

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:carmichr_at_hotmail.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 10:17 PM
>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
>
>
>Ian,
>
>You have my sympathies for your struggles. And my respect for
>how you seem
>to be dealing with them. My husband was a hemophiliac. Just
>living with that
>as an adult was hard. To live with a genetic disorder in a
>child must be
>infinitely harder. I have an enormous respect for my mother-in-law who
>raised such a child and did not wrap him in cotton-wool, "in
>case he got
>hurt".
>
>You are in CA, where you can get a much better assortment of
>non-store-bought produce than I can here in NYC, although I
>tend to frequent
>the greenmarkets and try to buy what is in season when I buy
>in stores. Even
>then, store-bought doesn't taste as good as fresh-picked. I
>have converted
>one person at work to never eating store-bought strawberries
>again, he tried
>some from the greenmarket when they were in season and was convinced.
>
>Rachel
>
>
>>From: "MacGregor, Ian A." <ian_at_SLAC.Stanford.EDU>
>>Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
>>Subject: RE: OT about to peeve off the vegatarians: RE: OT RE: Largest
>>Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:15:35 -0800
>>
>>So where do I get my woolly mammoth steaks. What was the
>life expectancy
>>of early hominids? I don't know about Maine Blue Berries, but wild
>>blueberries in Nova Scotia are just as sweet if not sweeter
>than the store
>>bought ones.
>>
>>Where in a reputable peer-reviewed journal can one find an
>article store
>>bought food is less nutritious than wild food. The purpose
>of fruit is to
>>be eaten, the seeds passing through the digestive system
>intact to be
>>planted with a little fertilizer. The sweeter the fruit, the
>more animals
>>are attracted, the greater chance of the plant dispersing its progeny.
>>
>>As far as I can tell taste takes a second seat to looks with
>commercial
>>produce. Produce is picked before its time so it can be transported
>>unbruised. It doesn't taste as good as the stuff off a backyard tree.
>>
>>
>>My daughter is autistic. We have her on a cassein and gluten
>free diet.
>>It seems to have done her some good; her attentiveness has
>increased and
>>her perserveration has dropped. My wife swears it has; I
>lean more towards
>>non-casual coincidence, but I don't want to give her bread
>pudding in case
>>I'm wrong. You won't believe how many things have gluten and
>cassein.
>>Gluten is not naturally found in corn, but it's in corn
>flakes. Most soy
>>cheeses have cassein in them so they melt like dairy
>cheeses. It is very
>>difficult to keep on such a diet, taking all grains out of
>the diet would
>>be harder still.
>>
>>Autism is a multi-genetic disorder; i.e, more than one gene
>is involved.
>>Latest evidence is that the genes express themselves about
>the first month
>>of pregnancy. In the future it will be detectable via
>amniocentesis, much
>>like trisomy 13 is today. For a parent it becomes
>noticeable somewhere
>>between 15 months and two years.
>>
>>So what does this have to do with cassein and gluten. There are
>>double-blind studies which indicate some children do better
>on such a
>>diet.
>>
>>
>>I like to think the experience has made me a better person.
>Before, when a
>>developmentally-disabled child walked into a room I'd act
>like the kid was
>>contagious.
>>
>>
>>Ian MacGregor
>>Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>>ian_at_slac.stanford.edu
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 1:12 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>http://www.healingcrow.com/dietsmain/paleo/paleo.html
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:36 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>Blah, I did not work my way to the top of the food chain to be a
>>vegatarian.
>>
>>"Walking on water and developing software from a
>specification are easy if
>>both are frozen."
>>
>>Christopher R. Spence
>>Oracle DBA
>>Fuelspot
>>
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:01 PM
>>To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>>
>>
>>Save the animals - eat a PETAn!!!
>>
>>--Scott
>>
>>
>>love doing this:
>>PETA: People Eating Tasty Animals.
>>
>>joe
>>
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