RE: Serious Question (believe it or not)...

From: <Diana_Duncan_at_ttpartners.com>
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 13:06:14 -0700
Message-ID: <F001.00320F7C.20010607130216@fatcity.com>

Oh, that would be great! Add some tips on how to spec out a system, and I'm buying it!

Diana Duncan
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Rachel/Jim,

Yeah, you have a good point. Their are a bunch of Oracle books out there covering everything about the database. But how about a book that's a little different that covers implementation.

Right now I'm in the middle of trying to setup HA possibly using Veritas Cluster Server and looking into BCV/TimeFinder with EMC and Oracle. Sounds like this combination would cover a lot of sites.

Yeah, there are a lot of Oracle books and a lot of Unix admin books, but not a lot (if any) books that tie the implementation of all these pieces together into a neat little book.

I know you're probably thinking this kinda leans more towards SA type stuff but a book like this would have helped me a whole bunch right now. I also figure there are quiet a few DBAs' that do sysadmin stuff aswell and a book of this nature could be very usefull.

Rachel Carmichael <carmichr_at_hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Smart man -- you can write a book anytime, your kids
> are young only once :)
>
> And before you think about writing that tips book --
> Oracle Press has an 8i
> tips and techniques book out (I believe Douglas
> Scherer is one of the
> authors)
>
> There is really nothing new under the sun.
>
> Rachel
>
>
> >From: "Hawkins Family" <jhawkins_at_primary.net>
> >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> >Subject: RE: Serious Question (believe it or
> not)...
> >Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2001 08:52:02 -0800
> >
> >Thanks for the reply, Rachel, and all others who
> wrote back offline and
> >through the list. Basically, here was my idea:
> >
> >Most DBA topics have been beaten to death, and I
> would have nothing new to
> >contribute. There is one area, however, that I see
> could be explored...
> >
> >Here goes...
> >
> >"Tips, Tricks, and Epiphanies" by various authors.
> >
> >I was thinking about putting all those neat little
> tricks and tips I've
> >learned over the last few years down in writing.
> Examples would be
> >everything from dynamic SQL to connecting as a user
> without knowing their
> >password via the encrypted string. Also, I've had
> epiphanies where about 8
> >things all the sudden come together at once in a
> moment of shining
> >brilliance. One such thing happened a few weeks
> ago courtesy of Rachel
> >herself in describing the recovery using a backup
> controlfile (open-ended
> >SCN). These are the things I think could be useful
> - things not normally
> >included in a DBA 101 book.
> >
> >So here's what we do: I think of 5 or 10 things
> like this, Jared thinks of
> >his, Rachel of hers, Ross of his, April of hers,
> and anyone else. We then
> >make sure there's no overlap. We then organize
> these into the following 5
> >sections: Administration, Backup/Recover, Tuning,
> SQL or PL/SQL,
> >Miscellaneous. If we get 10 experts to contribute
> 10 unique tips, tricks,
> >or epiphanies, then we have a book. Someone (me or
> Jonathan Gennick from
> >O'Reilly) compiles them all and writes some wrapper
> material, and
> >voila!....a book! Easy, right? I do have a
> writing background, so this is
> >why I became interested.
> >
> >Having said all this, having 3 kids under the age
> of 4 and a wife, I also
> >have taken what Rachel said to heart. Right now, I
> think it would just be
> >something to think about.
> >
> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Jim Hawkins
> >Lead SAPR/3 Oracle Database Administrator
> >MEMC Electronic Materials, Inc.
> >501 Pearl Drive
> >St. Louis, MO 63376
> >(636) 474-7832
> >jhawkins_at_memc.com (work)
> >jhawkins_at_primary.net (personal)
> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Carmichael
> >Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 4:40 AM
> >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >Literary background is meaningless in writing a
> technical book... I don't
> >have one and I managed :)
> >
> >Developmental editor if you can't write? Not hardly
> likely. That's what
> >I've
> >done on both Marlene Theriault's Networking 101 and
> Gaja's Tuning 101
> >books.
> > You need to be able to write to make the books
> interesting and at the
> >same
> >time technical enough.
> >
> >Technical editor has to know Oracle very well,
> because you are responsible
> >for ensuring that the scripts and statements in the
> book are absolutely
> >accurate.
> >
> >Neither is a trivial job. Nor are they ones that
> can be done in a spare
> >moment or two.
> >
> >How did I get started? I was asked by people I
> knew to do the technical
> >edit on a book. Do I recommend that you do this?
> NO!
> >
> >Understand that writing a book is NOT something you
> do in your spare time.
> >It does not matter how well you think you can
> write, or if you know Oracle
> >backwards and forwards. You have a full-time job
> while you are doing this,
> >you have (one hopes) a life that you want to keep
> as well.
> >
> >You can't slack off on the job, that's what pays
> the bills. You have
> >deadlines to meet. You can't slack off on those, or
> the publisher takes the
> >book away (yes, they can do that). So your life
> disappears.
> >
> >Jim, if you really truly think you can do this....
> stop and think again. I
> >spent 6 months of no life writing 101 and this was
> with co-authors! Yes it
> >is worth the end product but understand that while
> you are going through
> >it,
> >it's hell.
> >
> >As for how to get started..... Oracle Press has a
> submission form on their
> >website for people who are interested in writing a
> book. They really do
> >read
> >the submissions.
> >
> >Am I trying to scare you? You betcha. Because if
> you STILL want to do a
> >book
> >after this, then I know that you really will get it
> done.
> >
> >Rachel
> >
> >
> > >From: "Mohan, Ross" <MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com>
> > >Reply-To: ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <ORACLE-L_at_fatcity.com>
> > >Subject: RE: Serious Question (believe it or
> not)...
> > >Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 18:30:46 -0800
> > >
> > > Alex,
> > >
> > >The answer to your question is: get several
> certifications
> > >and become a consultant! <grin, duck, and run
> like hell>
> > >
> > >Ross
> > >
> > >p.s. anyone certified (or certifiable) who is
> deeply
> > >wounded by this senseless attack is encouraged to
> contact
> > >me offlist, where I will supply a heartfelt
> apology, a few
> > >hugs, and an autographed picture of my Hannibal
> Lecter in
> > >a speedo with a ponytail impersonation.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >Sent: 6/6/2001 4:58 PM
> > >
> > >If you do not know Oracle you will get from
> technical editor. If you
> > >cannot
>
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