OT "Habits of the Heart"

Patrice...

interesting post. Who was the author?

thanks for the fyi.

|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Boivin, Patrice J [mailto:BoivinP_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca]
|| Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2001 10:41 AM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: RE: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
||
||
|| I am reading a book now, called Habits of the Heart, that
|| gives a historical
|| perspective on different philosophical streams within
|| American society.
||
|| One of them is the utilitarian freedom one, where everyone
|| should have the
|| freedom to say or do whatever they like, as long as it
|| doesn't impact other
|| people. The problem is, there isn't much debate about what
|| people want to
|| do with that freedom, many people just end up going home and
|| watching tv
|| because they don't have any goals or purpose in life.
||
|| Someone in the 1800s noticed that this was becoming a trend, and he
|| expressed misgivings because there is no social discourse,
|| he saw then that
|| some people who held lucrative positions just went to work,
|| earned money,
|| and went home.
||
|| Before that trend appeared, people were mostly self-employed farmers,
|| wheelrights, whatever, and the town/community was the focus.
|| Because a
|| business owner could only be successful if the townspeople
|| like him as a
|| person, if the owner did good things for the town overall,
|| etc. etc. We can
|| argue that that no longer exists, most towns now are just bedroom
|| communities and people no longer work in the same town their
|| house is in.
|| They commute. There was a down side to this town-centric
|| view of things of
|| course (there are always good points and bad points), the
|| chief one being
|| the conformity that was imposed on people. Salem comes to mind...
||
|| Anyway, maybe one day Oracle will release a patch for these
|| problems, or we
|| will be Oracle citizens instead of country-bound.
||
|| : )
||
|| Er, this does not reflect the views of my employer, etc. etc.
||
|| Patrice Boivin
|| Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
||
|| Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des systèmes
|| Technology Services | Services technologiques
|| Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique
|| Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO
||
|| E-Mail: boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca <mailto:boivinp_at_mar.dfo-mpo.gc.ca>
||
||
||
|| -----Original Message-----
|| From: Mohan, Ross [SMTP:MohanR_at_STARS-SMI.com]
|| Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 5:14 PM
|| To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| Subject: OT: RE: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
||
|| <rant on>
||
|| ep,
||
|| Any idiot can see we're the freest country in the world!
|| Free to do what is expected, or get thrown in jail at a
|| rate exceeding most other "civilized" nations. Free to
|| subsidize tobacco and alcohol (and related deaths) and
|| throw "dangerous criminals" in jail for using cannabis.
|| Free to have almost the highest teenage pregnancy rate
|| in the world. Free to fight for your rights just as long
|| as your money lasts! Free to buy as much of whatever you
|| want until the money, environment, or patience of the
|| less fortunate runs out.
||
|| So much freedom, you could almost choke on it.
||
|| Come on, you commie, admit it: you just stay here for
|| the Burgers and Coca-Cola!
||
|| "You have no chance to survive make your time"
||
|| rm
||
|| p.s. If you want to reach me, I'll be in the prayer meeting
|| John Ashcroft, the Attorney General, now holds each morning
|| inside the Department of Justice.
||
|| <rant off>
||
|| || -----Original Message-----
|| || From: Eric D. Pierce [mailto:PierceED_at_csus.edu]
|| || Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2001 3:07 PM
|| || To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
|| || Subject: Re: job offer from SAUDI ARABIA
|| ||
|| ||
|| || Many professional women in the USA have found it
|| necessary to
|| || purchase handguns to protect themselves from
|| criminal elements in
||
|| || public places. Children are constantly under psychological
|| assault
|| || being exposed to media violence. The "liberal"
|| education system
|| is
|| || devoted to indoctrinating children with mindless
|| "PC" relativism,
||
|| || materialism/consumerism and hatred of God (or at
|| least arrogant
|| || dismissal).
|| ||
|| || Western "freedoms" can be seen from a variety of
|| perspectives.
|| ||
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